What's your take on Mylow and his magnet motor? |
| Created By: | sterlingda |
| Created Date: | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) |
| Last Voted: | 05/29/2009 (36 weeks ago) | | No. of Votes: | 736 |
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33 Votes (4%) | | | Sincere inventor scared by MIB
170 Votes (23%) | | | Psychotic faker from the beginning
393 Votes (53%) | | | Planted to discredit FE movement
39 Votes (5%) | | | Don't know / none of the above
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219 Comments | | | 12/01/2009 (9 weeks ago) | MIB=? I THINK THEY NEVER KNEW HIM. JUST DIDN TWORK OR ELSE WE WOULD KNOW
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| | | 12/01/2009 (9 weeks ago) | | i think is fake |
| | | 11/18/2009 (11 weeks ago) | HUMMMMM
too bad but sometimes the experiment dont work and the cientist already invested so much of him that wont see whats in front of him.
thats the case. once the magnets run out of the energy they have recharge them requires more energy that the one stored... laws of fisics
but itts all right , life goes on to other sobjects.
take care |
| | | 11/10/2009 (12 weeks ago) | This is suposed to be a cientific blog .why is then some many non educated people dont have the work of learning before the experiments?In my point of view magnets are nature natural batteries , ie they can transmit energy but they will run out and to recharge them we need to spend more energy than we can harness.....
even if it worked agains the laws of fisics they would be the next black gold, no?
We dont need another niche market to be absorbed by corporations, i know because i work in one of them and they exist to make money , not to make our lives easier.
Please dont listen to these idiots who say the magic magnetic engine exists, these oportunists that only slow progress down.There ARE magnetic engines but they are USELESS as they dont produce energy out of nothing.
Be realistic and never give up but learn to think cientifically.
why do we need to loose time trying to create gold out of nothing if gold is arriving to our planet )FREE GOLD in the form of light and heat?
MAGNAMOTORS and others alike :i dont believe there is a hell but if there is i wope you twisted freaks burn in it along with your fantasies.
Guys try to gather around a serious subject otherwise people with means and hopes and dreams may give up and we need those dreams as a whole.do research , exploit ideas talk to each other but on realistic means to achieve an end.
Investors GET A LIFE.the money shoul be invested where the knowledge and expertize and means are:in a R D facilities with real cientists.
Cientists please dont get a life , we as a world need you guys but sharing an idea can make you advance in your projects as it was proved.
We will continue to monitor this issue, as it is too important to be taken care lightly, dont forget our future as human race is at stake.
Take care.
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| | | 05/30/2009 (36 weeks ago) | | Sterling was right to publish Mylow's personal information. It's the only recourse he has and it is a perfectly acceptable form of social ostracism. Claiming Sterling is responsible for anything that happens to Mylow is ridiculous. Sterling is NOT the aggressor! Other's should know about Mylow if they google his real name. |
| | | 05/28/2009 (36 weeks ago) | Sterling's heart was on his sleeve and got pinned to it...but he wasn't alone, it seems. That's what comes from looking for a false savior. And in the wrong place at the wrong time, to boot.
That OU dot com forum was virtually wholly co-opted for weeks over the 'mylow' debacle, speaks volumes about the stark absence of quality research that passes for status quo on the site.
I mean, come on people, worshipping an obviously primitive replication of one of HJ's early research models? Those who don't stand for something will fall for anything it seems.
There are many more important things one can be doing at this late hour, than buzzing like moths around the harsh flame of the feeble human intellect.
Naturally, many are pouring their angst into single channels of promise for self validation....
To which I must rebut:
Promises, Promises.
Man's promises fail all the time....
Check out the evidence at Arkdiscovery dot com
Now THAT'S how to fulfill promises! And more is in store....directly ahead.
God bless
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| | | 05/27/2009 (36 weeks ago) | Based upon recent postings, it seems certain that Mr. Sterling Allan continues to believe that Mylow really has discovered something of value despite the fact that most other people do not believe that.
It seems to me, Mr. Allan is in the same state of denial that people get into when they are told they are about to die. Betrayal, like death, is extremely difficult to accept.
We had a saying in the front of our first course on Probability Theory. The saying was, "lest your tale be untrue, keep probability in view". It seems to me that what is most likely true is that Mylow has nothing of any value.
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| | | 05/27/2009 (36 weeks ago) | This D-Bag knew what he was doing all along. I hope that the people who bought the plans atleast read a lot about this type of crap. If you really want something done do it yourself. Don't they remember beleive nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see. This applies to everything. The truth always lies somewhere between the what is presented and the caveats.
I really can't beleive that anyone and I mean anyone fell for this. LOL Oh yeah and I am an engineer. |
| | | 05/27/2009 (36 weeks ago) | Mylow, Allan, if you are monitoring the thread, you must understand a few things before you can make it work.
A magnet is loaded with the magnetic component of energy and not the electric... or rather a very minute portion, mostly trapped in the mass.
The magnetism expressed is the result of interaction between the etheric field and the magnetism of the magnetized material. This field, as exposed by HJ, is in constant motion, vortical motion at that. In order to imagine it, look at some pictures of earths magnetic field, the field is much like that. The trick is to force the magnetic fields to interact with the etheric in such a way as to convert some of the etheric energy into electricity we can use. Better yet, Energy instead of just electricity, look to Teslas lectures for the difference. A key is the propensity for different metals to offer an easy path to each energetic component, some provide a path to electricity or magnetism. Copper flows electric and seems to reject magnetism, there must be a counterpart that behaves in the opposite manner.
Invention is the application of knowledge in order to help humanity of those willing to take the time to understand natural concepts fully.
It's all about potential, few people recognize what that means.
Peace |
| | | 05/27/2009 (36 weeks ago) | | from the entire begining of mylow's crap it was sounded very fishi because if some one have something to proof he would show it for every one and not sit in the hide and make videos and when sterling came special down to him why didnt he let him see that? dosent it sound fishi? |
| | | 05/26/2009 (36 weeks ago) | must not be very sophisticated in the way you address innovation and construction.
You assumed the thing was a working motor, those of us who bothered to look at the video and understand Howard Johnson's theories understood it was an interesting first step. However, a basic understanding of magnetic interaction would have made it clear it shouldn't be spinning. Unless he was using a current around the stator magnet to convert the attraction to a repulsion. |
| | | 05/26/2009 (36 weeks ago) | Quote:
"Perhaps you don't understand the English language very well, I invite you to go to the page where he offered the investigation material and read the caviats and try to understand them. It's all there in the open for anyone willing to take the time to read"
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I still dont see where the people who originally purchased these plans were told this magnetic motor was a fraud and they would be wasting their money. Sterling throughout this whole ordeal has claimed Mylow had a working device and the plans were for those people who wanted to replicate the working motor (which nobody could because Mylow was caught lying about it) Even now Sterling and a few others continue to make excuses as if the motor and subsequent plans work. I posted on Sterlings website exactly what was going to happen and it did, exactly as I said it would, from Mylow not showing the motor to anyone or letting anyone validate it to the MIB laughable excuses to no working device being shown.
There are honest people out there that are legitimately trying to figure out ways to make a working free energy device a reality. People like Mylow and Sterling do nothing but hurt the real free energy movement and those of us who are trying to bring forth working devices when they perpetuate this kind of continued fraud. We dont need fraudsters in the free energy community because it only brings us down.
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| | | 05/26/2009 (36 weeks ago) | While I would have liked this to be true, IMHO, Mylow has been faking it from the beginning. If this were such a breakthrough, others would have no trouble recreating it. Also, the earlier videos I saw looked like they were deliberately looped with an editing program to create the illusion of continuous motion; no one with a real, working invention should need to do that. The fake video was one of the easiest things to spot, IMHO.
If the MIB told Mylow to put the strings in the unit, then how come noone else can recreate his results? Mylow has no magic other than he has deceived people. Sound inventions that actually work are easily recreated by people who are capable. Mylow's supposed motor was not rocket science by any definition of the colloquialism.
This case is consistent with other frauds out there, too. There general approach seems to be pretend to have working invention that does not really work. Fake vidoes of it so that it looks like it is working. Disseminate plans so that other people can build it. When they are unsuccessful, pretend that you do not know why they are unsuccessful, or, pretend that they have done something wrong. IMHO, the only thing that anyone has done wrong here is to believe Mylow had something especially when noone else could recreate it. |
| | | 05/26/2009 (36 weeks ago) | If the MIBs told Mylow to add the string ?
Then Sterling fell down again and did not ge a statement from Mylow on video confirming or denighing it, Or go visit Mylow again and see the earlier working ? models. |
| | | 05/26/2009 (36 weeks ago) | | The scale is tipping toward the fact that this is a hoax. If someone comes up with a viable running example, great. Until then, we need to shift our focus to something that is a little more substantial (and there are hundreds) and revisit this at a later time. |
| | | 05/26/2009 (36 weeks ago) | The MIB incident if true is worked out very well for the MIB.
Here were the MIB options.
1. Kill Mylow Result: Huge backlash, and thousands of replicators join the FE movement.
2. Tell him to stop posting videos on Youtube. Result: His sudden silence would result in the same as No. 1 above.
3. Tell him to do what actually transpired (fishline, etc.) Result: Discredits the magnet motor movement in a major way and puts everything back almost to the way it was prior to Mylow.
Option number 3 is ingenious on the part of the MIB. We're following their plan like clockwork. Human psychology is amazingly predictable. All the backlash on Mylow will also stop him in his tracks as well. Only he and the MIB know the truth right now.
The solution, keep up the work on the FE magnet motor and maybe in time, Mylow will be vindicated. There is no proof his Stonehenge motor (prior to MIB) was rigged. Present this proof and I will then absolutely conclude that Mylow was a fraud. (I know some people are saying they think they see some fish line in the Stonehenge model, please prove this like the post MIB videos showed the line clearly.) |
| | | 05/26/2009 (36 weeks ago) | | mylow is full of crap |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Perhaps you don't understand the English language very well, I invite you to go to the page where he offered the investigation material and read the caviats and try to understand them. It's all there in the open for anyone willing to take the time to read, in fact, it's easier to read than the fine print on a mortgage contract, but apparently people aren't very good at taking the time to read those either.
If you didn't spend any money on the plans, then STFU, otherwise, you are just beating the drum of defeat. celebrating the failure of those who at least had the courage to try. More than can be said of the spectators who are merely there to find fault and amplify it. It flies in the face of logic, then again, those sort of people have as much trouble appreciating logic as they do appreciating art. |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Quote:
"The most significant outcome of the controversy is that MOST OF THE EXPERIMENTING ENTHUSIASTS HAVE GIVEN UP!
How easy is it for the MIB or the PTB (Powers that be) to influence most by a simple discredit. Where has all the hope that Mylow gave everyone gone.
Before the fish line episode everyone was working with positive energy with a belief in a free energy outcome. What has changed?
Except for everyone becoming discouraged. The concept is there and its still valid - lets keep working it. Mylow did."
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The enthusiasts and replicators have given up because Mylow was lying to people and faking his videos. What more do you need? How can you make excuses for the guy and still believe his BS? Do you really think all of a sudden he is going to come out with a working device? Trust me it aint going to happen. The very reason Mylow was put under so much scrutiny after the initial excitement is that the things he started saying didnt add up and he refused to allow anybody to validate his device and this was even before the MIB nonsense. Mylows "working" motor could have been validated a long time ago if it were real. People started questioning his honesty because he was following the same path as other fraudsters. People then started taking closer looks at his videos because his claims didnt add up. It turned out the cautious people who claimed Mylow was lying were right.
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| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Quote:
"See what I mean, they only work to denigrate and impede progress, regardless of the fact that this will affect them as well"
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Nobody is impeding anything. Nobody is stopping you, me, Mylow or anyone else from developing a motor and showing it to the world. If Mylow truly had a working device, he could very well end all of this. Instead all you hear are excuses and fraudulent videos. Who is stopping you from building a working motor and showing it to the world? |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Most of those complaining had no stake in this other than being spectators and cheerleaders. Some bought the plans without realistic inspection or reading the caviats, now they feel they were deceived because they didn't do due diligence and studied the device instead of coming to conclusions it would mean riches for them. So now, they have been disillusioned and turn or whom they once admired. Ignore them, they are inconcequential and merely a deterrent to our desire to succeed and protect our planet and population.
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The people that bought the plans thought they were buying plans from an actual working device as claimed by Mylow and Sterling. Its one thing if these people couldn't get the motor to work and replicate Mylows claims but its an entirely different situation with Mylow lying to people from the beginning and the plans being sold never working because there was never a working motor. Thats fraud and if people wanted to make an issue out of it, it could probably get both Mylow and Sterling in a lot of hot water. |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | See what I mean, they only work to denigrate and impede progress, regardless of the fact that this will affect them as well.
Oh well, some folks accept suicide with ease... they have stopped believing in themselves. The rest of us will struggle on against the OilYgarchy with all our might, because we refuse to be slaves to energy, the one thing the universe is full of.
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| | T Lee Buyea - Fla.News Service, Miami, Fl. USA |
| | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling ??
To put this selling plans thing into a better perspective, How many $25 plans did you sell ?
Just remember in the future, See it operate in person, Examine, Disassemble, Move away from possible hidden power sources
That is why I put a lot of hope in Tilly's electric DeLorean, Because the way he said he was going to prove it by driving it on a race track for 24 hours could not be faked, Of course he faked a bad wheel bearing and refused a loner wheel bearing from a Delorean owner present at the test, So he was just another faker / con man. |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | The funny thing is he still believes in himself. |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | an inteligent faker |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I believe that it is time to get back on the road to free energy. This whole magnetic motor project was an entertaining distraction. It was nothing more than a side show to the bigger problem that I believe everyone that visits this site wants and that is a viable solution to the global energy problem.
So, I believe the most important step that needs to be taken at this time is Sterling and company need to lay out their road map to free energy. I'm convinced that not having this road map has allowed Sterling to veer down this side street and get lost in some back alley in Chicago.
This free energy movement has now been around long enough to have all the information that it needs to lay out this road map and begin moving down it. With a road map in hand, there will be no more time for getting lost on dead ends or wasting time on long shots. This effort is too important and too urgent a matter to spend frivolously.
Think about this. What is the real problem that the free energy movement is trying to address. Is it a complete replacement of all energy sources that we currently rely upon? Are we trying to address the cost of transportation? Are we trying to make this affordable for 3rd world countries?
It is time for the New Energy Congress to take a look at all of the energy technologies that they are currently aware of and layout a plan that takes the most viable of those technologies from the test bench to the real world as a new energy solution for all. This is not going to be easy because so many of the technologies are in such an infant state. For instance, the man with the new motor design that is supposed to be so much more efficient, has yet to deploy that motor on any vehicle or in any generator anywhere. Its basically untested in the real world.
As for transportation, EEstor is developing a super capacitor battery that potentially can revolutionize transportation. This seems to be much closer to fruition than many of the technologies talked about on here. There was discussion of a nuclear technology that was developed that significantly reduces nuclear waste and is much safer. If the battery technology allows for everyone to switch to an electric car then we are going to need nuclear power to charge all of those cars. I expect the New Energy Congress to be thinking ahead about how all of this will work. They need to have a model for how all of these technologies will play out in the future and how we will transition to these new solutions. They need a road map and with that in hand, we will all have a much better picture of where any of these new developments such as an all magnetic motor fit into the overall direction that free energy is going. |
| | Jed Clampett is a Sterling sidekick |
| | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Some bought the plans without realistic inspection or reading the caviats, now they feel they were deceived because they didn't do due diligence and studied the device instead of coming to conclusions it would mean riches for them."
Jed Clampett must be a scumbag lawyer who like Sterling makes money off people by trickery in "the fine print" . . . . tar and feather him too along with Sterling and Mylow |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Good lord, has anyone got a comment other than to beat a dead drum that makes no sense to keep beating?
Most of those complaining had no stake in this other than being spectators and cheerleaders. Some bought the plans without realistic inspection or reading the caviats, now they feel they were deceived because they didn't do due diligence and studied the device instead of coming to conclusions it would mean riches for them. So now, they have been disillusioned and turn or whom they once admired. Ignore them, they are inconcequential and merely a deterrent to our desire to succeed and protect our planet and population.
e=mc^2 this formula expresses all the energy within an atom of matter. It means that you have to accelerate the atom to the square of the speed of light to convert all it's mass to energy. Since we are not greedy, we do not need all it's energy, merely some. The formula then becomes... e=mw^2 where w stands for the angular velocity. Shauberger tried to show us that by forcing water into a conduit that formed tighter and tighter spirals increased the energy available in the water, an energy that could be parasited and put to work. In theory it is easy, in practice requires knowledge of the intimate bond between positive oxygen and negative hydrogen which make the simplest yet most abundant electromagnetic bond known to us.
Out of those posting, how many have constructive or helpful comments? maybe a couple, the rest are gimps mere used to become obstacles to progress. |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Have mylow prove it or end all discusions. Enough already, Just because our government can't give us a straight answer on anything and expect us to believe everything they tell us does not meen we have to take this kind of childish behaver from the general population.Just pick it up and show it to somebody and lets get this over with and if you can't then go away so real inventions can get some air time. |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | There was this Coral Castle. Edward Leedskalnin had carved out hundreds of tons of coral to create a palace. And there was a free energy machine lighting up the whole works. Nobody has so far proven that he was a fraud.
www.coralcastle.com |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Guilty!
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| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | MIB are like Satan, impossible disprove or prove the existence or appearance of either one, I read reports of their appearance with skepticism. In regards to Sterling Allen. None of use are forced to read what he reports, and we pay nothing to do so , if we decided to do so. Anyway if there is something to this HJ magnet motor, alternate plans will appear on the instructables web page or somewhere else. |
| | | 05/25/2009 (37 weeks ago) | (REPEAT) A NOTE ABOUT PLAN SALES
If you insist, we can give you a refund. However, in the presentation of the plans for sale, we made it clear that all the information we were providing was available for free at our open source page: http://MylowPlans.com What you were paying for was the convenience of our compilation to make things more clear and concise. That is what you got. We did not assure you that the plans would result in a working device. We only said we hoped it would do that. We also clearly stated that no replications had yet been made using these plans. You were clearly informed of what you were getting, and you got what you paid for. I don't see the justification for a refund.
As for why we continue to post the plans for sale at http://MylowPlans.com we still hold out that there is enough of a possibility that this could be for real, that we want to assist those who want to give it a try. We clearly state at the top of the splash page that fish wire was discovered in some of the videos, so no one is going to be learning about that only after they've purchased the plans.
Sterling |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I think this is just an example of a tinkerer in way over
his head...the physics of even how an electric motor works
is complicated...it is highly unlikely that anyone without
a firm science/math background is going to make any sort
of breakthrough and even if he does he won't understand that
he did.
The videos that I watched were totally useless...where were the measurements that showed even near unity performance...they really were a total waste of time!!!
Stuff like this detracts from real researchers efforts in
the energy field. |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Who cares if its a fake. We will explore any and all technologies til we win the prize of inexpensive energy for ourselves and all of humanity. |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Wow, your post below is the "piece da resistance" ! |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Nobody should be negative about breakthrough tech nor about Sterling's intentions. Everybody should be negative about this tech and Sterling's actions.
The reason why I care:
This is raping minds and wasting time and money. The effects do not stop with this tech, they trickle into a disease in the movement. I'm a humanist. It seemed there was something to add or some way to say something in a more effective manner. I hope that this can cause improvement.
Mylow did not introduce a concept.
Sterling hyped Mylow due to falling for BS instead of sticking to validating tech with the Scientific Method.
Sterling's hype is the selling point of plans sold by Sterling. Without the hype and misguided BS further infecting minds to waste, they are nothing special or new.
Sterling is selling hype.
It should have been simple:
Mylow: Sterling, I have this motor. Please hype it.
Sterling: Prove it works.
Mylow: I'll post a video. Please hype it.
Sterling: That's not proof. Let me see it in person and have it validated by a university near you. Then I'll consider hyping it.
Mylow: Fake.
Sterling: Shame on you for wasting my time. I'm proud that I took care of my community by not wasting their time and money by properly handling you and your tech.
What happened:
Mylow: Sterling, I have this motor. Please hype it.
Sterling: Okay, will do. Tell me more.
Mylow: MIB. I'm humble, honest and I don't want money. Hype it.
Sterling: Holy shi*t! Crop circle messages are telling me you're a savior. This fits into everything Alex Jones and David Icke taught me too ... so I'll promote all that garbage and incite more Timothy McVeighs and social instability and hindrance over paranoia! You're such a good person! Everything is falling into place! This is going to be huge! Finally, I found it!
Mylow: Hype it. It is for the good of everyone.
Sterling: Absolutely. I believe in you. Let me just add a disclaimer and that will make everything okay regardless of my BS involved with overtly promoting you as a gifted man with genuine technology. This way if I help you sucker a bunch of people out of their hard earned money purely from my hype of you then I can rationalize how that's not my fault. It's working!
Mylow: Fake. Busted. Nothing to say.
Sterling: It's because of the MIB, isn't it Mylow?
Mylow: Yes, Sterling. This has been very difficult.
Sterling: I know. I'll just make a bigger disclaimer since I can't ignore the fact that you got busted. I'll still promote the idea that the satanic MIB stopped you, the plans will lead to working tech in the right hands, and that you had working tech.
What should be done now:
Disclaimer or not, refund offer or not, you are not showing conviction of your errors by selling these plans and defending their sale. A man with more integrity and rationale would not rationalize the sale of the plans; he would punish himself by returning all funds and ceasing sales in addition to apologizing for where he obviously went wrong ... and leave the plans up for free download. He would then salvage much respect from people who understand what's going on - the majority of the people voting in this poll. |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | The most significant outcome of the controversy is that MOST OF THE EXPERIMENTING ENTHUSIASTS HAVE GIVEN UP!
How easy is it for the MIB or the PTB (Powers that be) to influence most by a simple discredit. Where has all the hope that Mylow gave everyone gone.
Before the fish line episode everyone was working with positive energy with a belief in a free energy outcome. What has changed?
Except for everyone becoming discouraged. The concept is there and its still valid - lets keep working it. Mylow did. |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | This "What's your take" collection of thoughts kind of reminds me of popping popcorn in the microwave. You start by unfolding a bag of microwaveable popcorn and placing it in your microwave careful to lay it down with the correct side facing up. You shut the door and start the microwave. After about a minute or so, when it gets hot enough to start popping you start to hear a lot of popping going on rapidly accelerating to a crescendo of popping. Then you hear the popping begin to wane as more of the pop corn in the bag has popped. Finally you hear it start to subside with longer and longer gaps of nothing but the low hum of the microwave in the background between pops. The air of course by this time is filled with the aroma of freshly popped pop corn. If you wait too long though you'll start to smell a hint of the harsh smell of burnt pop corn.
I'd have to say that this bag of popcorn is just about popped. The comments are starting to repeat if you go back and read through them from the start. You could just about distill them down into a series of ideas that could be established to collect votes on instead of repeating them over and over in more and more written statements. Here are a few of the ideas that I see repeating.
1) Mylow had something to begin with but was redirected by MIB
2) Mylow never had anything and MIB was Mylow's made up excuse for shutting down
3) Sterling simply reported the events and all related facts as they occurred
4) Sterling held back key facts or offered up unrelated supporting facts along the way that made Mylow seem more legitimate than he really was
5) Sterling worked to enable a successful replication by offering plans at cost, standardizing the magnets, sharing all info possible from Mylow
6) Sterling exploited Mylow and the interest in what he was doing for profit for himself and his friends
My personal opinion is that Sterling is doing two things. He is trying to report and enable break throughs. The struggle for Sterling with anything like this is keeping his role as a reporter of a possible break through separate from his role as an enabler. A reporter is not going to actively participate in pulling together plans for people to try and replicate something.
So, when it goes awry, he catches flak for every kind of role that he has played deservedly or undeservedly. He's looked at as the dishonest reporter that reports with an agenda or bias. He's viewed as a profiteer or worse a scammer.
Its very possible that there was something to what Mylow had to begin with and Sterling in his enthusiasm to bring this to the light of day failed to take the steps necessary to prove that the MIB did redirect this project. He would have probably had to have Mylows place under 24 hour surveilance to do this but it could have been done.
Anyway, this comment collector was a great way to allow everyone to vent their frustration about this issue. |
| | T Lee Buyea - Editor in Chief Fla.News Service, Miami, Fl. USA |
| | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling
You do Not need to resign, But just follow the golden rule of free energy investigation in the future
That is ask Can I come see it in person ? And have total freedom to inspect / disassembled / move it away from any hidden power source ?
If not then get back to me when I can ! |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | one good thing what came out of all this mylow crap is that if some one want to proof that he has somthing if he will do the same crap as mylow than it will not take 2 month's to figure out the truth we will know in the right away |
| | Shameless Sterling has NO CONSCIENCE |
| | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling - It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why a huckster like you would spend several hundred dollars flying to Chicago and back because you smelled money in a truck driver's magnet motor (just like you smelled money with Perendev).
Maybe we should all set you up with magnet motor frauds so we can get you travelling all over the world chasing down wild gooses ? |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "guest2 05/24/2009"
You are one sick m.f.
Why can't you spend time doing something worthwhile?
(other than it's beyond your ability?)
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| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "If you insist, we can give you a refund. However, in the presentation of the plans for sale, we made it clear that all the information we were providing was available for free at our open source page: http://MylowPlans.com What you were paying for was the convenience of our compilation to make things more clear and concise. That is what you got."
You talk like an stupid rip-off attorney that chuckles when someone doesn't read the fine print. The fact is that your main angle is to always get your greedy fingers in whatever pie comes your way, however necessary. And I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you manufactured this whole scheme knowing it was fraud all the time - as a way to profit off a scam. This whole series of Mylow articles certainly demonstrates an author with grandiose and pyschotic delusions. Aliens make crop circle to salute Mylow - hah - it is really too crazy to be too funny.
Anyway, that is not what Open Source is about. Typically, Open Source means that if you take material from a project and work on it and refine it, you return your effort to the community that made your work/material possible. You don't just take from everyone and then sell their stuff back to them.
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| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Hopefully something to lighten the mood, it is a beautiful song, the singer I must admit took me by surprise along with many others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY&fea ture=related |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | sterling,
you crapped in John Bedini's cereal again, after John held out the hand of freindship to you, again! what an idiotic thing to do. the one guy who has more brains in his left pinky finger then you have in your whole head. you need to post a full fledged apology to John and Rick for the slanderous libelous actions you have perpetrated, and refund all people who bought plans from you when you did not even see a working device when you went to see mylow. |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | sterling,
you crapped in John Bedini's cereal again, after John held out the hand of freindship to you, again! what an idiotic thing to do. the one guy who has more brains in his left pinky finger then you have in your whole head. you need to post a full fledged apology to John and Rick for the slanderous libelous actions you have perpetrated, and refund all people who bought plans from you when you did not even see a working device when you went to see mylow. |
| | | 05/24/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling, You brought shame and disgrace to the Free Energy movement all over the world. I been following your career closely. SOme folks may not really know you but I was around and closely monitoring your moves.
What was your actions with Perendev? You work so hard to become a business partner of Perendev, But when he declined you went into demolition work against him. Ever since you been looking for opportunity from free energy enthusiasts and if anyone claimed of a working device you immediately comes up with a 3%,3% commission and selling the plans to replicators.
You obviously quick to seize the opportunity presented by Mylow even without verifying who this person and check his sanity not to mention ask for validation of his claims to protect those people whom gave their trust to you. You are quick to take a chance for a quick profit. Because of these obvious actions of yours we concluded that you are more of a liability than help in promoting the healthy development of free energy techonology.
THEREFORE WE ASK THAT YOU RESIGN FROM PESWIKI AND PES NETWORK TO SAVE IT FROM FURTHER EMBARASSMENT AND REGAIN WHAT EVER DIGNITY IT MAY HAVE.
From: FREE ENERGY MOVEMENT |
| | Shameless Sterling has NO CONSCIENCE |
| | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | SHAME ON YOU STERLING
You still sell the plans on this scam - - - you have no conscience and are shameless.
You should offer FULL REFUNDS - - hands down, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Any good attorney would have plenty of actionable evidence to sue for your continued participation in this obvious fraud.
A customer could even submit this to their state attorney general's office and get you smoked without need for an private attorney.
And the Better Business Bureau thrives on these type of cases . . . . |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Man, who let the dogs out? watch out man, they'll bite anyone and anything.
"guest
05/23/2009 (5 hours ago)
it actually makes sense that since the width between the stator magnets are not set, thereby creating an arc that is interacting with a set of magnets at 90 degrees to the center of the arc, and the overlapping of the two rotor magnet poles that they will continuously seek equilibrium that they cannot achieve."
True, but you would need a receiver for the magnetism at the center, which he did not have, no make the link. Perhaps a semicircular path to center made of copper such as in Tesla's perpetual motion machine invention. He states that providing semicircular grooves on the counter rotating disks helped improve the torque according to the text of the patent. I believe copper is a better path and may intensify the effect. also, on the stator... Johnson had two magnets side by side, some distance appart latteraly and also one slightly ahead of the other. Mylow has the right attitude, forget the beasts man, they are doing what they are there to do, ignore them, don't let them hurt you in any way. They can't.
At least three groups of magnets, perhaps on a wooden base, or with the perfect cutout in the plates and glued in place would be excellent. Balance is key, this puppy will fly and become dangerous to anyone standing around it. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "HE IS STILL SELLING THE (FAKE) PLANS"
Needed a little correction. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Yes This guy is right.
No one is forcing anyone to buy those plans.
It explains that it may not give you a working device.
We don't need to see anymore stupid comments like "HE IS STILL SELLING THE PLANS"
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| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Enough about the plans, doorknob, you buy them if you want them.
What are you trying to do? is there something in there that bugs somebody?
Why are you trying so hard to make it stop? You sound more like a freak. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "AND LET ME ECHO ..... HE STILL RATIONALIZES SELLING THE SCAM PLANS! "
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We can only hope he is under investigation by the law, it might even weed out some of the other dirty tricksters evident within the free energy community.
VALIDATE, VERIFY, two extremely important words to remember, they might stop you from putting your foot in your mouth again Sterling, but I do not hold out hope on this. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | AND LET ME ECHO ..... HE STILL RATIONALIZES SELLING THE SCAM PLANS!
STERLING,
CEASE AND DESIST AFTER FULL REFUNDS TO ALL UPGRADE YOUR STATUS OF HUMANITY AND RATIONALE .... OR KEEP DIGGING YOURSELF A BIGGER HOLE.
Sincerely,
Somebody that never believed nor bought plans, but always wishes you the best due to recognizing your positive efforts and intentions. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "You'll probably feel better if you go out and
kill a few more 3rd world people to support the
US Military/Industrial imperialism.
Every "good Zionist" supports it!"
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Thanks for proving my point, in addition to Sterlings rants in all the Mylow articles. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Nobody is attacking Sterling's intentions, as is implied by some of your Straw Man and Ad Hominem arguments about the lack of considerate, compassionate humanity here. They are attacking his horrible execution of Due Diligence, his perpetuating a fraud by perpetuating fraudulent unscientific nuttery in attempt to legitimize it and his statements regarding the idea that he doesn't see justification for self-initiated refund to all regardless of the fact he has now offered to refund if asked.
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"So many hopeless cases, it is indeed a sad reflection on society."
Indeed. Notice most people here are from the USA according to demographics by 99polls. USA citizens have grown to not feel served well by their government .... and to distrust it greatly. Too bad many of the most distrusting think a combination of socialism and capitalism is the work of Satan. Denmark ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shepBx2ogJo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOkfVerhBU) loves their government, their economy, their education with allowance, their health care, their QUALITY OF LIFE, their happiness, their clean energy, wouldn't dare suggest MIB suppression of tech from their government bc they know it's not going to happen .... and this combo makes them not suffer enough to turn to religion so they tend to be quite rational in all areas of life.
Indeed, stupidity is at fault here too. That is only government's fault to the extent that they do or do not run education and do or do not get support to improve it from the same citizens that hate socialized education.
9/11 didn't help. Indeed, it may have something to do with the government. Not only do the towers and WTC7 appear to defy basic physics, nor do we have any positive identification of what hit the Pentagon despite 80+ cameras pointing at it, but since Niels Harrit and 8 other scientists recently found nano-thermite in the dust from the World Trade Center and got published in a peer reviewed journal ... it fuels the misguided even more. They then find Alex Jones and his ilk and they get convinced that the reason for 9/11 is a Satanic or Jewish Global Domination conspiracy and then they get lost in nutzoville (especially if they were already religious).
I'm telling you - if 9/11 was an inside job - perpetrated or allowed to happen - it was a case of poor judgement in the notorious flawed logic, religious nuttery, oil hungry and oil invested Bush Administration by a group of mostly courageous people that thought they were doing the highest honor to humanity by showing the world what the Islamic threat is and that it needs to be stopped and it needs massive support from the citizenry and massive action immediately. They just did what Devout Islam aka Radical Islam would do if it could ( http://www.youtube.com/infideltaskforce). They thought the ends justified the means, as more than a few buildings and 3 thousand people have been sacrificed for good intentions - and good results - in the past. It did not help that they were religious whackjobs ( http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_9217 & http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=bible+quotes+rumsfeld+bush ) .... just like it does not help PESwiki to have reporters interweaving BS into science. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling ??
What is Mylow saying now ?? |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "So many hopeless cases, it is indeed a sad reflection on society"
You'll probably feel better if you go out and
kill a few more 3rd world people to support the
US Military/Industrial imperialism.
Every "good Zionist" supports it! |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "AND only the VERY ignorant, or deceptive, would fail to recognize Sterlings accuracy
in describing them."
So many hopeless cases, it is indeed a sad reflection on society. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "... MiB conspiracies."
"Only the truly ignorant would miss the inconsistencies in his story."
AND only the VERY ignorant, or deceptive, would fail to recognize Sterlings accuracy
in describing them. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Humanity has some very unconsiderate, unappreciative, and vocal souls."
That's "inconsiderate", your spell checker must be on the blink, but they do work unlike Mylows motor.
It does not matter his past deeds so long as he maintains the plans to a fake on his website and continues his lies concerning MiB conspiracies.
Only the truly ignorant would miss the inconsistencies in his story.
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| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling
Too bad "no good deed goes unpunished" is also applied here.
You spend your time and money (transportation, phone calls, etc) to
try and help people accurately replicate a claimed accomplishment.
For all your efforts the more vocal jerks here just criticize you.
Humanity has some very unconsiderate, unappreciative, and vocal souls. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Sterling has no shame, it is such a pity, the dream he put forth could very well be ruined by his continued ACT. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | If his device works, and he put up plans, all someone has to do to vindicate him is to make their own working model. If even two or three people could do so, then anyone trying to stop it would face an uphill battle. I have a feeling it's not going to happen. |
| | Sterling has NO CONSCIENCE |
| | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Sterling should automatically refund everyone who bought Mylow plans without anyone asking and cease selling them, apologize for his own [hopefully] temporary insanity and wasting people's time . . ." I second that motion.
As to Sterling's post today: "convenience of our compilation to make things more clear and concise . . ."
What a load of crap. The convenience of a SCAM, Sterling. The whole thing is a scam, convenience or not and by trying to sidestep this with fineprint you show you're true colors that YOU ARE COMPLICIT in this SCAM. If you just said FULL REFUND, no if's, but's, or ands about it - - everybody would have much more respect for you. But since you choose to play "the fine print" game you should be tarred and feathered just like Mylow - - together preferably.
Shame on you Sterling . . . .
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| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | it actually makes sense that since the width between the stator magnets are not set, thereby creating an arc that is interacting with a set of magnets at 90 degrees to the center of the arc, and the overlapping of the two rotor magnet poles that they will continuously seek equilibrium that they cannot achieve. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Sterling, I guess you didn't believe me when I said I could end your reign. I was going to simply ask that you step down but now I see that my work has already been accomplished and that you did it all by yourself. Maybe next time, if there is ever a next time, maybe you will listen to your counsel. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Like most in the Obama Administration."
I meant to add: Like most in any area of legislation, enforcement, gaurd.
The biggest factors "not in our best interest" are those biased to things like oil and religion .... like the Bush Administration.
"an hinder enlightenment and hinder World Peace. "
I meant "and hindering".
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Homo-governance and Unity or Global Cooperation or Global Governance = a massive blow to the governance and dominance of religion. That's why every person that started a religion to compete with other religions "prophecied" the "evil" of such unity."
What we are experiencing is a large religious conflict between Islam and the rest of the world -- with a traditionally Christian nation being the leading opposition due to various factors not strictly related to religion. Oil/Energy is thrown in the middle for obvious reasons.
Energy and Resource problems will be solved with tech obviously as a result of Empirical Science - not your delusional connections of BS.
Religion is temporary insanity which can be difficult to cure people of.
After that the last level of major ignorance hindering World Peace will be nationalism "we are just better than you because of the past and our name and location - screw the fact that we are all humans and want the same things out of life".
After that it will be about sustainability more exclusively than ever. Technology and unemotional, scientific wisdom will be the answer. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Whether Mylow was forced by the MiB or not, this evil person lied, he is destined to burn in hell for all enternity, have pity on him. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I believe Jose is/was a genuine guy - he simply got lost in the pressure, with an 'impossible' dream at his fingertips - an engineer for a brother, he's made replications of HJ's motors and added twists, ending with a 6-mag no-brainer. Egged on by nagging questions, he's put together videos suppling the details we all asked for. For whatever reason, medical or otherwise, showing your face in videos of a fake device, is not what a malicious person would surely do. Looks like the cat eventually did eat the bird.. Chins-up though guys, there's sure to be plenty more to look forward to in the future :) |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Keep forgetting this....
Sterling .... you said....
"The "kill shot" from the Sun (earth burned by fire) scheduled for Dec. 2012"
and
"I believe that the crop circle message above conveys to him that not only is the planet counting on him, but the universe is rooting for him. "
This is not science --- it is myth and insane fantasy. It has nothing to do with validating tech. The Scientific Method is all you need! Stop deluding yourself and making your site a waste of time for anything other than jokes on stupidity and insanity! Stick to open minded SCIENCE.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan
"The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid." G.K. Chesterson
"for years before I entered the world of free energy technology, I was involved in studying and exposing global conspiracies to overthrow freedom and establish a world dictatorship. The implementation of the extreme security measures in the U.S. is all part of removing our freedoms and moving us toward that kind of Orwellian world. "
No, it's part of a Good New World Order to establish World Peace and sustainability of the human race like John Lennon's Imagine song. After technology advances stop resource conflict, religious nutters will still be killing each other, and us sane people, and our world, over fairy tales trying to get to their promised land of nonexistence.
"I do not view those in power in the U.S. government to be working in our best interest, though there are certainly exceptions to the rule."
Like most in the Obama Administration.
"And the NSA would be near the bottom in the list of those who have freedom dear to their heart. While they put forth an image of working for the security of the country, they are more like foxes guarding the henhouse."
No, they are like you locking your wife and children in the house for safety. Like you having your neighbor let you know if somebody was spying on your house. It's just a bigger scale.
"The BlackOps were behind Hitler, Stalin, 911, the Murrah Federal Building bombing (false flag operations), etc. They do ritualistic human sacrificing. They do mind control and ritualistic abuse. They are about as evil as this planet is able to dish out."
You need to stop making cooperative connections where there are merely similarities.
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They might think what they are doing is for the best, but their methods of coercion and murder and manipulation are not of God; and the society they wish to birth -- the New World Order -- is the Satanic Beast (666) prophesied in the Bible."
"While I'm not a Bible thumper, I do see a lot of truth to some of the end time prophesies that are consistent with prophecies from many other religious and spiritual paths. An era of global dominion of evil prior to the emergence of an enlightened society, is the reality we are presently experiencing. "
You are not a bible thumper yet you assert the New World Order is "the 666 beast from the Bible" Riiiight.
It's just like homosexuality forbidden in religion is about the fact that homosexuals contribute to the killing of the religion because they do not produce children to indocrinate and populate the world with.
Homo-governance and Unity or Global Cooperation or Global Governance = a massive blow to the governance and dominance of religion. That's why every person that started a religion to compete with other religions "prophecied" the "evil" of such unity.
What we are experiencing is people like you regurgitating BS from people like Alex Jones and religious BS an hinder enlightenment and hinder World Peace.
What we are experiencing is people like you using this same BS to legitimize fraudulent technology which wastes time and hinders progress to the liberating tech you wish for.
"Free energy will be part of the new enlightenment both for its sustainability as well as for its empowerment. With it, we won't be dependent any longer on the powers that be, but will be able to assert our own individualism and goodness -- aspiring to the highest that is within, rather than groveling to the baser elements of our nature."
Like I said before....
After technology advances stop resource conflict, religious nutters will still be killing each other, and us sane people, and our world, over fairy tales trying to get to their promised land of nonexistence.
Your type of Pseudo Scientific Religious Babble thought is OBSERVABLY - AS IN IN A MANNER OF EMPIRICAL SOCIAL SCIENCE - THE hindrance to the solutions you seek - real observable workable liberating technology and world peace!!!!!!!
PLEASE GROW OUT OF THIS INSANITY!!! |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling should automatically refund everyone who bought Mylow plans without anyone asking and cease selling them, apologize for his own [hopefully] temporary insanity and wasting people's time and his own bandwidth. No problem to accept donations. I'd be more inclined to donate if he stopped screwing up.
No evil MIB is happening here - especially not with Biden. Any politician would love such tech as it would immortalize their career if they helped it.
Mylow is full of crap. Sterling helps Mylow be a BSer by leading him with fairy tales of crop circle relevance and "evil MIB NWO Theism" BS.
Adding to some previous stuff...
The reason why I contribute these "off topic" points (NWO, Theism, MIB, "inside jobs" etc) is because this is in part where Sterling and the "scared by MIB" crowd (24% of you nutters!!!!!) is screwing everything up. It is common sense that none of this should have anything to do with validating technology with an open mind and scientific points about where science has more to learn, but they drag all of this unscientific, unrealistic BS into all of these fraudulent tech stories to rationalize legitimacy where there isn't any.
Find my relevant posts below on Alex Jones is misguided, NWO is good, a realistic perspective with underestimated motives on 9/11 being an inside job, infideltaskforce, religion etc...
Islam Crescent Moon Star Paganism
Christianity Sun Son Solstice Paganism
Pharmacratic Inquisition - http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/main/
Gnostic Media
whywontgodhealamputees.com - pray to milk video
Richard Dawkins
James Randi
We are all atheists, even you theists. Theists will be atheist to every god except their own, regardless of the fact that every other god has just as much/little/nonexistent evidence and clearly resembles fairy tales like Santa Claus for adults.
When we are born - we don't care about color, country, socialism, capitalism, communism, sexuality, religion - we just crave fundamentals of observable and tangible reality that make us survive, prosper and be happy. We are taught all the other BS and the bias simply depends on your luck of the draw regarding location of birth and who your parents are.
On a bigger scale, when man was first figuring out life -- having a brain storm in the middle of nowhere and not being taught BS previously .... he only had reality to interact with. He observed reality and developed Empirical Science. He couldn't answer everything with observation at that point and didn't understand the value of the discipline of Empirical Science and the Scientific Method. He was thankful for the sun, the earth etc as it was clearly vital to his existence. He experienced sex and psychedelics as a part of nature and interwove those experiences into Empirical Science. "Maybe just like I have sex with a women and make her produce life, the plants, stars etc have sex and produce - the circle of life". "Sexual Rites are important." [Eats a Mushroom] "I think I talked to the sun God". [Wants to control a growing population - by passing on limited wisdom] "People need role models ... they cannot emulate the sun .... I'll personify the sun and call it God's Son .... he has risen .... I'll call the darkness Set .... sun set ... god is up in the heaven so up and heaven is good .... then the sun goes down and there is darkness to down and darkness is bad and that's where hell is .... I'll make sexual rites .... etc" "I'll make a religion". Enemies make a competing religion because they see how powerul it is - you don't control people they control themselves by what you wrote down. "Babies are good" = "spread religion by populating the world with believers." "Homosexuality is bad" - "don't kill my religion by not having indoctrinated babies to populate the world with." This fairy tale personification religious competition part caused a big problem and some of you still prove it.
Unitarian Universalism and Humanism or HUUmanism is the only church of rationale I've found - because it teaches you to understand all religion and culture while distinguishing faith and fairy tale from reality. Next to that - no church is the best church.
Time to go back to "worshipping" (being thankful for and protecting) reality (sun, earth, humanity) or we are going to kill ourselves and hinder evolution, prosperity, quality of life, the list goes on. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | A NOTE ABOUT PLAN SALES
If you insist, we can give you a refund. However, in the presentation of the plans for sale, we made it clear that all the information we were providing was available for free at our open source page: http://MylowPlans.com What you were paying for was the convenience of our compilation to make things more clear and concise. That is what you got. We did not assure you that the plans would result in a working device. We only said we hoped it would do that. We also clearly stated that no replications had yet been made using these plans. You were clearly informed of what you were getting, and you got what you paid for. I don't see the justification for a refund.
As for why we continue to post the plans for sale at http://MylowPlans.com we still hold out that there is enough of a possibility that this could be for real, that we want to assist those who want to give it a try. We clearly state at the top of the splash page that fish wire was discovered in some of the videos, so no one is going to be learning about that only after they've purchased the plans.
Sterling |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | According to Tesla and understanding his concepts, you must realize that he was able to use a small amount of electricity to produce huge amounts of energy... well, actually, he didn't produce it, merely set it in motion and harvested the movement.
He created a capacitance, a charged ball 39" in diameter at a height of 169 feet, in connection to the Earth via a resonant system of coils. Typically one or two which must have been tuned in resonance to each other. Once he got the system in electromagnetic motion, he could send the energy, not electricity, through the Earth and to any receiving device on the planet without much loss. He made fun of radio men who wasted 90% of the energy in electromagnetic waves and only 10% of energy was truly transmitted.
A common misconception is that the sun is a nuclear fission system. This is proven false by Schauberger and supported by astronaut's observations, it is a fusion device of the highest order. Potential is produced from the union of base elements into higher level compounds, atomic evolution, this is natures way of producing energy, not fission.
Light and Heat are the product of atmosphere and the opposite potentials of Earth and Sun, one part of the system is AC, the other DC.
Astronaut accounts are famous for their description of a starless sky and a dark sun, not until they reached the moon did they see stars again, proof of the moon's extremely light atmosphere and an atmosphere's ability to act like a lens and diffuser.
I know, these things are hard to accept because they fly in the face of all we've been told since at least the days of Tesla, however, those who search beyond what is presented to them are the true explorers and discoverers among us, it will be they that rediscover the knowledge of the past and save the future. The deniers, accusers and ridiculers are merely static designed to prevent those who would empower us all from succeding, they have no useful input so don't bother reading them, they only distract from what is truly important. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | All the claims are just BS and nonsense without any evidence or proof and contradict proven and demonstrable laws of physics that intelligent people have developed over hundreds of years of study and experimentation.
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Faith brother, you must have faith, without faith heavier than air flight would not have been realized....oh wait, what's that I see flying near the heavens, oh yes, it's a bird. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | In this age of social networking, it seems everyone wants to talk all of the time about just about everything but almost nobody has anything of any value to say.
Do any of the people commenting on this site have any technical, scientific or engineering education?
Anyone can claim anything. I can claim that people from Mars visited me last night, and that claim cannot be proved or disproved by anyone.
You've got people on this site claiming that solar cells and wind generators are overunity energy devices. That's pure BS and nonsense. They just convert one form of energy into another. They are not overunity energy devices.
Someone claims that the DOE has all kinds of energy devices in some warehouse. More BS. It's one of those claims that nobody can prove or disprove. As I said, anyone can claim anything. Where is the evidence to support that claim?
Probably the most well-known equation in the world is E=mc^2. Mass is a form of energy. It's my understanding that nuclear reactions are one way of converting mass into energy.
Nobody, to the best of my knowledge, has ever demonstrated or proven that it is possible to get more energy out of a device than is put in. All the claims are just BS and nonsense without any evidence or proof and contradict proven and demonstrable laws of physics that intelligent people have developed over hundreds of years of study and experimentation. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "OverUnity devices already in use -> Wind turbines, hydropower from dams, Solar power systems, Nuclear power. Systems that harness energy from the environment. The energy is out there. The trick is in harnessing it."
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Removing man created Nuclear power, none of these systems are overunity, there ultimate source of energy is the sun which has a nuclear reactor at it's heart, it too will burn out sometime, maybe it will take billions of years, but it will burn out.
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| | Robert L Pritchett, Former New Energy Congress Member |
| | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I would recommend the "Energy from the Vacuum" lecture series. We are showing them each week in Richland, WA as part of our Alternative Energy User Group activities, through July 2009, so we can become more educated regarding Pure Energy systems.
The US government uses magnet motors. Those who "discover" their usefulness get "visited" and are given an offer they can't refuse, are discredited or disappear. The DOE has a warehouse full of OverUnity devices. It is time they were released for public consumption.
OverUnity devices already in use -> Wind turbines, hydropower from dams, Solar power systems, Nuclear power. Systems that harness energy from the environment. The energy is out there. The trick is in harnessing it.
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| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Just plain greedy for fame or money. Nothing new under the sun. Whoever brings this technology to the thousands or more "ready to go replicators" out there, it has to be ready to give up on any kind of shape or form of recognition to make the dream of FE possible.
Ultimately, 99% of the people on this planet will continue to pay for the convenience of having everything done for them...the rest of 1% already have a way around of not paying the hydro bills anymore. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | With my name: Make-believer who turned his disappointment after sincere endeavor into fraud, just to justify his effort. Type: sociopathic derailment. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Make-believer who turned his disappointment after sincere endeavor into fraud, just to justify his effort. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "I respectfully encourage commentors to refrain from flaming Sterling and instead respectfully challenge his assumptions. Unless new evidence comes to light, I assume his MIB assumptions are false (due to Occam's Razor). But when he holds out hope that Mylow is for real, he is actually being quite rational,"
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The rational is lost while Sterling continues to disseminate the plans for Mylows motor, please consider, the MiB strong arm Mylow to prevent him giving out anymore information, but they permit the continued dissemination of the plans, there is no logic or rational in this. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I always wondered how he was getting the platter to move without shorting out the opposite ends of the poles like Howard Johnson was doing, but it seemed plausible, even with the metal plate.
I guess it's possible that he has staged the hoax to get the MIB off his back, but the ranting video with the statue on his device was a bit much. A doer doesn't waste his time in complaining or worrying about the abuses of insignificant men.
However, his exposure did force me to look at Mr. Johnson's book again with new eyes.
Important points from Johnson's books.
Repulsion is 81 times stronger than attraction, sounds like Schauberger huh?
The plots of the attraction field and the repulsion field. See the repulsion? Looks like an egg with a double vortex in it's center. Shauberger again, looks like the magnetic field of EARTH, probably the same in humans if it was imaged appropriately.
The magnetic gate. Interesting how he was able to get a particular magnetic arrangement to attract the same pole. This is the key.
Playing with some molybdenum magnets I find that when the square ones are in attraction and you rotate one of the magnets of the attractive system 180 degrees, not rotating any of the faces looking at each other away, you will find that the attractive system is now repulsive. This exposes HJ's observation of the existance of elements of pos and negative types of magnetism in both poles of the magnet, and the collapse of one field in repulsion.
Now apply this to an electromagnetic system like a galaxy. The axis is held in it's position by a magnetic gate that interacts with the force that opposes the expulsion of xrays from it's poles. This must be copied to access the power source of nature, vortical spin as occurs in the simplest atom and the largest of galaxies. Once you get a series of discs, or a single disk, trapped within a magnetic gate and lock it in at top and bottom with repulsion/attraction interaction, all you have to do is apply an outside magnets repulsion to the system to accelerate or decelerate it, since it is now floating on a magnetic field that keeps it's place with a repulso/attractive interaction.
Hope this help enlighten those who are hoping to help Mother Earth and end the Oil Oligarchy. I'd give you more, but Earth wants you to try rather than just having things given to you.
Peace... long life and prosperity to all. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Mylow's name is Jose. he's an illegal alien in Chicago. he needs to have his birds shoved down his throat and then him and his family need to be throws across the border so he will be in good company."
Thats not nice!, the birds did nothing to you! |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Mylow's name is Jose. he's an illegal alien in Chicago. he needs to have his birds shoved down his throat and then him and his family need to be throws across the border so he will be in good company. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) |
"When you are able to construct an intelligible sentence, then I might consider you can also read a map to find me."
Doh! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXCbAtkgNMw
The MIB made me fake being MIB so I made a typo by replacing the appropriate "We" with "When" so you'd figure out I was not really MIB. Mylow taught me.
This has been very difficult for me. Please forgive me.
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| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Sterling is the Psychotic - Sterling is the one that can't differentiate between his fantasies and reality. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I'm often struck by the ubiquity of Occam's Razor - of all the hypotheses that match the observed data, the one with the fewest assumptions is usually the correct one. This applies quite strongly in the case of Mylow. The hypothesis that Mylow has delusions of grandeur or a deeper pyschosis is much simpler than an unknown, unreported, unseen grand conspiracy of global elites, with hundres or thousands of members but no leaks, suppressing technologies that threaten their power base and involving, of all people, Joe Biden.
I am very skeptical of Sterling's world view, but that said I understand and admire what he's trying to do - find and support radical alternative energy technologies to head of climate change and free us from Arab oil. Yet another ubiquitous principal is risk vs. reward - the greater the reward, the greater the risk you have to take to attain it. In Sterling's situation, this means sometime risking your credibility in the hopes of finding a holy grail FE device. For most of us, including yours truly, this risk is not worth it. But if he does eventually bump into it, we're the fools, not he. We can laugh at him in the meantime, but I don't think he gives a hoot.
I respectfully encourage commentors to refrain from flaming Sterling and instead respectfully challenge his assumptions. Unless new evidence comes to light, I assume his MIB assumptions are false (due to Occam's Razor). But when he holds out hope that Mylow is for real, he is actually being quite rational, given his assumptions (specifically, his assumption about a MIB conspiracy). So it's only his assumptions that should be questioned, not his integrity or character.
And of course, it's ultimately an empirical issue anyway: Can it be replicated? Whether or not Mylow is Psychotic or on the level does not change the physics involved known or unknown, though it does change our guesses about whether or not it works.
Mylow, in my opinion, is full of horse hockey. But let us not forget that not all of physics is known. The most glaring problem is the lack of unification between relativity and quantum mechanics. Is it so outlandish that the union of the two might point the way towards extracting ZPE into mechanical or electrical energy? According to Feynman, you could melt all the oceans with the ZPE in a coffe cup. Anyone who rejects 100% the possibility that a real Mylow is waiting in the wings on scientific grounds isn't being a real scientist, since science, particularly physics, isn't finished yet. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "We know who you are. When know where you are. We do not forgive. We do not forget. "
When you are able to construct an intelligible sentence, then I might consider you can also read a map to find me. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Don't forget the crop circles. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Yes, Sterling lost tremendous credibility. Exposed his true self, though. Ridiculous 1-2 months wasted fixating on Mylow and fantasyland MIBs.
It's simple: Cut the BS. It is proven to work or it isn't. If it isn't - omit the stories. Scientific discussion only. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Do not concern yourself with the individual Mylow.
Our agents presently have him under surveillance.
It would be in your best interest not to interfere."
We know who you are. When know where you are. We do not forgive. We do not forget. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Hey sterling. Why are are you wasting your website on this
clown named Mylow. I previously enjoyed coming to your website each day but I noticed in the last few weeks 80 to
90 percent of the entries were on Mylow. Is there no other
news to report? As soon as I saw the name Mylow I knew this
guy was a total fraud. It reminds me of the guy in Fresno or
was is it Bakersfield that had the $15,000.00 wind turbine
that could run the whole house that was being manufactured
in China and you fell for it. And that stupid video he
posted with the small car that he claimed belonged to the
local power company. The giveaway was the aftermarket rims. Utility vehicles are always stock. And the cone in
back behind the bumper. Another giveaway. From now on refuse to give any of these losers press on your website
unless they can provide a working prototype that can be
verified by qualified individuals. |
| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "GIVE US Mylow's name so we can talk to him"
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Do not concern yourself with the individual Mylow.
Our agents presently have him under surveillance.
It would be in your best interest not to interfere.
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| | | 05/23/2009 (37 weeks ago) | GIVE US Mylow's name so we can talk to him
Believe it or not ?
When I posted yesterday the code at the bottom I had to type in to send this post was MYLOW !! |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Mylow is a con artist that assisted in selling plans for something he knew to be a fraud. He needs to be in prison and we need to know who he is. Why protect the identity of a known con? Turn him in to the Feds."
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This is not something that can be proved, while I agree Mylow is a liar, at no time did he ever ask for funding, the plans for Mylows motor are being sold by Peswiki, they have also open sourced them http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:_MYLOW%27s_Magnetic_Motor_based_on_H oward_Johnson%27s_Design |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Mylow is a con artist that assisted in selling plans for something he knew to be a fraud. He needs to be in prison and we need to know who he is. Why protect the identity of a known con? Turn him in to the Feds. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Has anyone even tried to replicate this - if it can be done then I'll appologize - otherwise the lier should be flogged. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | http://www.youtube.com/infideltaskforce
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Hopefully this will help some of you, because I know how some of you think and it's not helping.
John Lennon's Imagine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg - is the New World Order. It's about World Peace and unity is a step. Global Governance or cooperation does not have to be bad and it is not intended to be - it is necessary for World Peace - what we all wish for. Alex Jones has this perception wrong and it effects all of his work. Not to say you won't find good facts from AJ, but they are all slanted with this satanism NWO BS vs christian patriots sovereignty austrian economics rubbish.
Alex is anti reality - anti science. He is an idealist that cherry picks science and facts into his deluded view of the world. He will hook you bc of the facts, but if you are not careful to vigilantly discern truth from him and other sources you will become a nut just like him because of his interwoven BS. This goes for everyone else spewing "news" who has bought into this satanism egomaniac rich reptile megalomaniac world domination BS (no - I'm not saying there haven't been isolated cases of satanic ritual abuse and such - it's just not what is driving the NWO and does not represent the majority if any of them anymore).
Granted, not all means are justified by the ends. However, sometimes people do things that are tough because they have a duty to. Consider that even if 9/11 were an inside job, for example, maybe after the growing pains we will reap the benefits. It drew attention to the fact that Islam is barely second in ranks of the largest religion, they are birthing more and recruiting more thus growing at a faster rate than any other, their religion leads to terrorism for conquest and tyranny for Sharia Law, their way of life will be a disaster to the world - possibly an end of it for humanity - all because they believe in their book and wish to follow every command therein for good intentions unfortunately not rooted in science and driven by desperation as with any devout religious nut. Similar negativity comes from every other devout following of religion, especially Abrahamic, but I am thankful that 9/11 put the spotlight on them and gave excuse to address them because they are the biggest threat. If they did not do 9/11, they wanted to, and somebody decided it would be better for all of us if we understood that and started addressing this issue ASAP. Too bad after 9/11 some people still don't get it - and that is what would lead to more "inside jobs" - not understanding this reality.
Religion is governance by free will hypnosis. Men invented it for empire. Religion says: have many children = spread my governance by populating the world with believers. Religion says "no homosexuals" for the same reason - won't produce indoctrinated babies to populate the world with (before the adoption concept).
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I would not put "evil MIB" past the oil industry, though - especially with Islamic Sharia Law tyrant nutjobs who only have any significant standing in the world due to plaguing it with their oil.
We ally with Israel not bc of a Jewish conspiracy, but because they are more aligned with accomplishment, progress and scientifically based, humanist based, world views ... and their location, experience, contribution may just save help us save humanity if the Islamic threat gets more out of control.
Zeitgeist got religion right. So did: The God Movie aka The God Who Wasn't There aka, Acharya S, The Pagan Christ, Buddhism and Christianity similarities etc. They are all the same - BS with earth/sky worship origin for manipulative, control and good intentions causing more harm than good -- dividing a world that should be united.
http://www.youtube.com/gogreen18
Consider: Electric Universe theory.
youtube.com/bgaede
youtube.com/soupdragon42
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Hey Alex Jones is RIGHT ON.
infowars and prisonplanet.com
Alex is the oracle of truth.
And you who said: "STFU" ? You must be one of Sterling's morons helping him bilk honest people of their hard earned . . . . |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I'm please that this experience brought to light how misguided Sterling's perception of the world is. It helps to better understand how he does his reporting. I hope he will learn and grow. I hope he will become less of a gullible loon and more of a fair minded centrist.
Stop listening to the lunatic fringe, Sterling. Believing in Alex Jones and the like will screw your life up and those of us who enjoy your website will be less well served. Stick to the facts.
Specific insight:
STOP LEADING YOUR SUBJECTS!!!!!! E.G. First you report "Did Mylow deliberately fake his motors due to duress from the MIB". Not only is it clear that you believe that, because your misguided world view combined with your understandable and admirable desire for this tech to be real makes you jump to such conclusions, but you gave Mylow the excuse he was looking for to feed whatever his waste of time motives are. No surprise that Mylow's first contact to you is to claim that is exactly what he did. It saddens me that you do not see what is obvious. It saddens me that you do not exercise better foresight.
This is not the first time.
Please keep up the admirable effort, just expand your purview and getter better at grasping science, reality/facts, interpersonal skills and discourse/inquiry/reporting in combination with the admirable open mind you have.
My best to you and everyone.
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "OK, if it's just a lousy $25 to you why don't you give the refund?"
Sure, it's worth $25 to me if you will STFU and quit posting to ANY
website that Sterling has, or has setup (like this one).
This includes using any alias.
Post your address and I'll mail a $25 money order to you. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Sterling is a 'sterling' example of a good reporter and examiner."
Let me rearrange your sentence to make a little more sense.
"Sterling is a 'sterling' example of how to get your facts straight before making an ass of yourself"
Yes, that's about right, I'm sure there are several reporters who would agree with my assessment, the ones who cannot have probably been fired from their jobs. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | ""How come you won't answer my emails about giving back the $25 I paid for your Mylow motor plans which we now know are a fraud."
About the only thing worse than Mylow is your constant whining about a lousy $25 refund. -get a life!"
OK, if it's just a lousy $25 to you why don't you give the refund?
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "How come you won't answer my emails about giving back the $25 I paid for your Mylow motor plans which we now know are a fraud."
About the only thing worse than Mylow is your constant whining about a lousy $25 refund. -get a life!
Sterling is a 'sterling' example of a good reporter and examiner.
I'm willing to pay for his time and efforts - fruitful or not.
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Hey Sterling,
How come you won't answer my emails about giving back the $25 I paid for your Mylow motor plans which we now know are a fraud.
My last email was the 4th one in a week and you still refuse to answer Sterling.
GREAT COMMENT POSTED PREVIOUSLY BY ANOTHER:
05/22/2009 (4 hours ago)
Not Mylow but Sterling looks suspicious to me.
1) Calling stuff open source, but selling plans which by definition is not OS
2) No replications
3) Convinces Mylow to replace original magnets with a very specific ones and promotes sales from a single source instead of many.
4) The behaviour of Mylow is contradictory with his alleged threads to his family.
Sterling you have to decide weather you want to be an authority or trustworthy source of info or a sleezy commercial guy trying to earn a few bucks on the sales of plans and kick-back fees of magnets. It's either one of the two.
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | That is a good point. If MYLOW has anything there is not any way that anybody can stop it from being given out to the public if he truly wants to give it away. All he has to do is get a device working, box the whole thing up and send it to PES or Sterling or some TV station for that matter with instructions for how to get it going. This could be done with components and in a configuration never before seen on YouTube or anywhere else in public ever before. This could be completely anonymously with no way to ever trace where or who it came from. For God sakes if the Unibomber was able to get away with doing things anonymously over and over with the FBI on his trail, surely an anonymous do gooder could get their world saving technology out there to the world. By the time the black ops found out it was in the hands of a TV station the whole world would know about it.
Come on people, there is no black ops standing in the way of this because it does not work.
As far as Sterling Alan is concerned, he is a reporter of any and everything on the cutting edge and on the fringe of free energy. He has to weigh being the first to report something against taking a risk that he is being duped. In this case, he felt he could take that risk. I believe in Sterling's ability to recognize when he is going down a dead end and filter further reports from a bad source. Through the year's Sterling continues to develop his skills of finding cutting edge technology while sifting through a variety of ideas that have absolutely no merit. I am willing to bet that in every encounter that Sterling has had with someone claiming to have discovered the holy grail of free energy, they have believed it with all of their heart. But in spite of this conviction in their invention, Sterling has been able to see through various ideas for the sham that they were and avoid reporting anything further to the rest of us.
This case was much more difficult for Sterling to avoid being harmed by because all of the questions that you normally ask to screen out potential fakes were apparently answered going in. MYLOW was thought to be too simple minded to concoct a hoax elaborate enough to fool Sterling or a lot of us. It was also a type of device that we've all heard that someone somewhere has actually made work. Finally, where was the motivation for MYLOW to fake this other than maybe the 15 minutes of fame that he recieved from all the people following this story. He was not asking for investors nor was he looking to sell it. So, Sterling and really all of us walked into this thing with an almost complete willing suspension of disbelief. If you were trying to discredit Sterling, this was the perfect setup to draw him in and pull the rug out from under him.
We've all been told that there is no such thing as a permanent magnet motor that works. But, if you are watching this story, you by definition do not believe that because if you did, you wouldn't be here looking at any of this. Your mind would be closed and you would have gone down the road a long time ago. Anyone here that denies this is just as big a liar as Mylow.
I do not blame Sterling for the way that he has handled this story. He took a risk and he got burnt this time. Will he be more cautious in the future? You bet your life. Will he lose some fans over this? Sadly yes. Will he recover? You can count on it. Sterling's open mind is the greatest asset that PES has. I'm convinced with Sterling continuing to work to turn every stone to find a viable free energy technology, PES will be successful in sponsoring something that will benefit us all along these lines.
Have any of you decided that permanent magnet motors are impossible because of this? I doubt it. While your confidence in Sterling and certainly anything fruitful further coming out of MYLOW has been shaken, you are still wild eye'd optimists that believe that someone is going to come up with some sort of free energy device using permanent magnets that will save the world. As for me, I believe that they are possible but for now I'll only beleive that someone has actually built one when I see it for myself. And I've yet to see one anywhere from the Searl variety to the Howard Johnson type. I will admit though, because of this story, I actually spent money on some magnets but, I've yet to find the time to tinker with them.
I promise everyone, that if I ever get a working device, I'm going to box it up and send it to a TV station with instructions on how to make it go in care of Sterling Alan. Keep believing everybody. Keep the faith. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | One more thing that I want to address since it has been brought up several times, this excuse that people arent ready for a working device because it would completely change the world and thats why it hasnt been released is nonsense. If Mylow or any of the other free energy people trying to make such a device start spouting this crap its a pretty good indication they dont have a working device to show. Everybody here knows such a device would completely change the world, thats why people are building these things. You dont spend years trying to build a free energy device, actually build one then turn around and say you arent going to release it because the world isnt ready. If someone does that they dont have a working device to begin with. Thats a worthless excuse. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Just an FYI for those who havent been following free energy for very long, If someone claims to have a working device then refuses to show anyone that device in person or let the device be independently tested that is a clear warning sign of fraud. It has happened exactly like this in almost every instance. This is usually followed by the excuse the device cant be shown for some reason. After the device cant be shown the next excuse is the government is trying to stop this technology nonsense. Go back and look at all the past free energy scams. Almost all follow this same path. Its not hard to spot. Looking at Mylow, it was very obvious a long time ago he didnt have a working device. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "So what exactly would you consider "proof" of a working MYT engine? "
A production line with vehicles being fitted and distributed.
But lets get one thing straight, it is not the MyT I am knocking, I think it's cool, but I am knocking boobtoob. |
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05/22/2009 (4 hours ago)
"Ignore all free energy devices until they can do what the MYT Engine inventor does! "
More YouTube proof?, wow!, there is a guy on YouTube called Chris Angel, he levitates, I guess he must have discovered anti gravity!
The MYT looks cool, but it is still NOT VERIFIED or VALIDATED.
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So NASA can't validate a ICE? Not verified or validated? First-Prize in the 2005 Emhart-NASA Tech Briefs "Create the Future" Design Contest is not won by fakes.
He makes prototypes, demonstrates them publicly, has patents, lets anyone watch the inner workings, has technical drawings on his site for free.
So what exactly would you consider "proof" of a working MYT engine?
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | The real question to all of this is one thing. About a good 10 years ago when I came on youtube about some things this guy pops out of no where and later people discovered a string. This same dude ! Remember when he says 30 years yeah he has been around for some time. Last time I was working on a magnet motor when he popped out and when i talked about the kml thing and had no camera another same thing happened a person in Utah revealed a similar but not even close technology having to do with a spark plug and plasma. This is not in anyway a coincidence.
He can make a motor work don't get me wrong there. But he is held down from pursuing anything tangible. If that is true then he could have his brother or someone else be his front man and finally after all these years vindicate himself period. Have this crap verified and be done with it. We could then get on with finally learning and seeing how he does it for real :) |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Please pray for Mylow and please pray for the secret to be revealed on how to extract free energy from magnets.
Listen to the opening music from The Beachcombers. It's like eating a delicious food that you didn't eat for 20 years. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Sterling, acknowledge your responsibility in trusting too soon. Give people their money back. They tried to find out, you just believed enough right away to set up a royalty scheme. You don't deserve the money. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Well it’s certainly easy to spot the repeated mindless comments here from certain members of OU.com. Good lord what sad pathetic little lives you all must live."
Ha ha ha, you should really consider that statement. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I am an avid supporter of alternative energy sources, and I haven't watched enough of the videos to comment on the validity of this device, but even if it is real, can someone please explain the usefulness?
The videos I have seen, the motor is rotating, unloaded, at a constant rpm which is easily stop by hand. It cannot be throttled to any great extent. I realize it is made with off the shelf parts, but magnets powerful enough to take this technology to a full scale powerplant, or even a motor for a car are prohibitively expensive and massive. Not to mention the fact that they might not work in the first place because of the load on the motor from either a large generator in a powerstation, or accelerating a car.
One final point, has anyone thought to measure the strength of the magnets after prolonged operation or cycling? In relatively weak magnets like those used in this model, the change in field strength from operation so far may be negligible, but a full scale device would require large, powerful neodymium magnets which will cause reordering of the magnetic domains during operation as the strong magnetic fields of the rotor magnets sweep past the stator magnets.
Before we get all hyped up about an alternative energy technology, can we just ask for verifiable and reliable data regarding energy content, power output, and efficiency? It may be that this technology works, but is it truly better than what we have now? Can it take the place of our current tech and do the job we expect it to? Those questions need to be answered. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Well it’s certainly easy to spot the repeated mindless comments here from certain members of OU.com. Good lord what sad pathetic little lives you all must live. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Not Mylow but Sterling looks suspicious to me. "
You are correct, there is nothing suspicious about Mylow, suspicion means you do not have all the facts.
FACT: Mylow has confessed to being a down and out liar, suspicious status removed. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Not Mylow but Sterling looks suspicious to me.
1) Calling stuff open source, but selling plans which by definition is not OS
2) No replications
3) Convinces Mylow to replace original magnets with a very specific ones and promotes sales from a single source instead of many.
4) The behaviour of Mylow is contradictory with his alleged threads to his family.
Sterling you have to decide weather you want to be an authority or trustworthy source of info or a sleezy commercial guy trying to earn a few bucks on the sales of plans and kick-back fees of magnets. It's either one of the two.
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Your bound to get some things wrong along the way,"
So how many times to you have to get in your face something wrong and continue to make the same mistakes in judgment?
Don't make me laugh, you are as much to blame as Sterling for encouraging it to continue, this goes for anyone else who continues to support this sham.
The FE community does not need this, they do not need to be bought down by someone in a position of high responsibilty, what mylow did is shameful, what Sterling is doing is now beyond reproach by continue the sales of plans to the mylow FAKE motor. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Hay, I don't balme Stirling for putting this stuff out. If your reading this Stirling, you've done a great job over the years, and helped to get loads of people interested in alternative and clean energy. Your bound to get some things wrong along the way, but that just goes with the territory. At least your trying, you just got scammed this time.
My guess is someone will create a working magnet motor similar to the sonehenge version, at some point, but it will probably deguess. Not that I think any of Mylows motors worked. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | sterlingda, you are a disgrace to the FE community, you bring shame upon it day after day with your continued sale of plans to the FAKE mylow magnet motor, you add to your disgrace by the addition of a known scam the MAGNET RING MOTOR, you sir cannot be trusted. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Ignore all free energy devices until they can do what the MYT Engine inventor does! "
More YouTube proof?, wow!, there is a guy on YouTube called Chris Angel, he levitates, I guess he must have discovered anti gravity!
The MYT looks cool, but it is still NOT VERIFIED or VALIDATED. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Another Steorn. All talk but when it comes to producing something .....
Ignore all free energy devices until they can do what the MYT Engine inventor does! Make a working prototype that can be demonstrated everywhere in front of anyone and shown to work repeatedly. |
| | growley@greenmileagemaker.com |
| | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | What about the clam-shell magnetic motor? Doesn't that appear to be the better way to go? Is that not working on You Tube or is it my imagination? |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | DO NOT GIVE OUT ANY INFORMATION REGARDING MYLOWS IDENTITY, JUST DO NOT TRUST THE RAT AGAIN!
STERLING IS NOW SELLING PLANS TO ANOTHER KNOWN SCAM THE SPINNING RING
IT IS SHAMEFUL!
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | The truth is... no one knows but Mylow. Opinion is bullshit, but in this time of Obama truth doesn't matter. Time always tells. Move on to something that works. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling is selling plans to another fake motor ????
My God, this guy is REALLY just a accomplice to the scam artists himself.
Sterling, I bought your plans to Mylows fake motor - - now I want my $25 back. Why is it you continue to ignore my emails ? |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I'm sure that someone will create a real magnetic motor one day soon. I'm also quite sure that it won't be able to produce enough energy to re magnetize an equivalent set of de gauzed magnets but I'd you be happy to be proven wrong :) |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Sterling, told you so. Mylow is, at least, honest about the fact that if you had watched his videos closely you could spot it was fake - as I pointed out in email to you, Sat, 16 May 2009 22:21:45 +0100. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Well why are we stuck with piston engines at the same time as the "UFOs" multiply in sthe skies???!!!!
Think again and please go read Callum Coats, John Keely and Nikola Tesla books, join overunity.com, energeticforum.com , www.witts.ws etc, etcv and LEARN what this is about(vortex, golden ratio, HV, HF, dielectric/conducting layers etc, etc). The technology is there in the books, just replicate Shauberger and see for yoursefl!! That is what the US military did after they stole the technology in the 1940s. Now they have many UFO planes up there and they just want to rule the world with this tech.
Time has come to break them once and for all and it starts by information spreading. Just go build stuff!!
And it is NOT easy and that is why they have been able to hide it for so long! MYLOW REPLICATORS WILL ARRIVE VERY SOON DO NOT WORRY!
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I try so much 'not working' magnets machine.
If someone has 'not usefull' magnets, I sugest my aproach.
I didn't build motor. I just found some 'linear movement principle'. You can found it on my "Nikola Tesla and My Thoughts" (search with google) web pages.
Maybe your magnets can become usefull.
Don't give up, because 'fake' scientist.
Nikola Tesla did not... |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) |
This thing's not over.
Go to Sterling's "Replications" page, and click on "Oh, So Close".
Check out Andy Graham's replication in particular:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MYLOW:Replications#Andy_Graham
I want to start a discussion about this. Okay, here we see some things that show Mylow wasn't full of sh-t. While Andy's unit cogs halfway round, who can ignore the fact that this thing really does act similar to a Howard Johnson magnet train? It really does accellerate and spin off/away from the magnets strip. Now, what is that? Is this a known/scientifically understood action??? I have seen people doing 'similar' things on youtube, and getting clear results, but none particularly like this one: HJ/Mylow. So... obviously, Mylow wasn't just completely full of sh-t?? Help me out here. There are videos of Mylow demonstrating only this phenomenon. Now we know this is real, and can be done. The only question at this point, is to keep it going around in a circle. So, was Mylow just full of sh*? Uh, no, he obviously knows something about this. More than a little.
Okay, here's another thing....
On Andy Graham's replication attempt video, you can see the disk rotating back and forth at the end, in oscillation. Remember when Mylow posted his video of the beginning of building his "instructional" unit? How he said that the oscillation, or "pendulum motion" was key? Andy Graham's is the best replication attempt I've seen so far, and it DOES do that oscillation thing at the end. In my world, I would think magnets lock on to each other, and don't swing past each other, then back and forth. You'll notice that Andy's magnet set swings all the way back, almost to the other extreme side of the magnet strip! And then all the way back. It travels quite a ways, actually. There is something going on there.
I'm left thinking other things. Could multiple stators work? Would it be simpler to start with single-magnet stators, even if multiple stators are used? Could magnets and stators be positioned on the opposite side of the disk, at asymmetrical points, so that one side is in its strong pulling phase while it is pulling the other side past the cog? I know, you'll tell me to try myself. Maybe I will. But I defffinitely don't have the skill that Andy and all those other guys have. This is a discussion... a brainstorming. Something definitely seems to be going on here, though. Right? Yeah, fish line or not--*something* is happening, and at least *some* odd/unexplainable/new phenomena are being verified (right?).
It also seems to me that Andy's plate is significantly smaller than Mylow's. It seems to me that the fact that the strip of magnets is 'angled in' on the center side, and the group 'angled out' out on the outside, might have some kind of "focusing" effect of collective magnetic fields, with them lining up and pointing (generally, but slightly offset) towards a center point. In other words, I wonder if the strip of magnets would produce acceleration/movement if they were not in a circular shape, but in a line form.
Already, we have one thing certain from Andy, and the other "Oh so close" replicator so far, oglundasotarn. Mylow HAS replicated a form of Howard Johnson's Magnetic Train (showed in the Bedini video lately), only in a MUCH simpler form. If you look at HJ's early train, that thing is -way- complex. You watch Andy's video, and you're basically seeing HJ's train, just FAR simpler to do? In which case, though not producing the same kind of pull HJ's train makes, it's also a FAR simpler setup (and way fewer magnets, to be fair).
Now, I know that the magnet "train/truck" effect has been reproduced by a number of people in a straight line, seen several examples of that on YouTube. I just wonder if anyone has ever invested enough in magnets to see if they can get it to go around in a circle, or in a loop?
And, the key question... even if you take Andy Graham's and oglundasotarn's videos where they are now... are these confirmed results of "something definitely going on" something new, or important or novel in any way? Are these videos significant in their own right?
A message for mylow: may be easy for me to say, but getting "protection" from the bad guys, is like making a deal with the devil. Wasn't it Benjamin Franklin who said, those who would give up their freedom for a little temporary safety, deserve neither freedom [liberty] nor safety? Devil gets his due. You're not here to accumulate bad karma. Just have the courage to do it. "They" already know who you are, so just release your name and who you are. And go balls to the wall with replications. Or just get a working device (if you really got it the whole way) in the right hands, and forgetaboutit. Do you not think that someday they will think you are gonna go do this anyway, and off you just to prevent you from doing so? If you got this thing 'fully out of the bag', any motivation against you would go from practical, to emotional revenge. I do not believe 'they' are vengeful as much as they are, "all business". You fear reprisal, but I fear you becoming an "expedient death" to KEEP your silence permanent. And then, what good would your silence be for, if they go and do it anyway? They have to get guys to do that crap. It has to be approved, funded, planned, and executed. That can take months. Sometimes longer. If that is happening to you, don't fall into their ploy, for them to buy time to get you to stay quiet a little longer. Do you really think that "THEY" think you shall stay quiet on this forever? Do you really think "THEY" trust YOU? (to stay quiet for the rest of your life) Do you. If this is happening to you, it's either because they either trust you, or they need some time to do their deed. Personally, if I thought there was even a chance they would do this anyway, even when I was cooperating, I'd not take the chance in letting my life go to waste. What regret I'd have at seeing the end of my life passed, with my opporunity stymied by trickery while they deceived me to buy time, while in reality my most feaful phase was really the safest. I'd feel safer with all the stuff out of my hands, distributed everywhere, and me no longer involved. Get us past the "sweet spot". Once we start getting our own acceleration, let us go. You just need to get the motor started...
don't let your life end in a pool of your own patheticness. don't work with them either. they eat their own. they tell you they're gonna have you work for them, that you're gonna go somewhere, and you're never gonna go back, you're gonna have to tell your fam & friends 'bye bye you'll never see me again', and sure--you go on a trip, all right.
Remember, Oswald worked for the CIA, lived in Moscow for a long time, and handed out fake pamphlets pretending to be a Marxist, when he was really involved in a program trying to make communists look bad. He unexpectedly got pulled into an extremely bad situation. Then, they got rid of him for all the 'help' he did for them. Then, Jack Ruby/Rubenstein, peripherally associated with him, and connected to the 'underworld', died of cancer months after getting rid of Oswald. So, my question is, who killed the person who killed him?
Let me tell you another thing to show you how ruthless the CIA can be. And you're not even the CIA, they're nice neighborly republicans as far as the "above government"/international government monsters go who you might be dealing with. The CIA tried to kill Bob Marley--except they went for his family and friends at the same time, too. They were behind the assassination attempt. Bob Marley and his family/friends got shot up, but all survived. He went on to write his next album, "Survival"--perhaps his best. Only a few years later, he died of a truly weird cancerous infection (skin cancer, melanoma on his TOE) at age 36. Luckily, our CIA hired bumbling Jamaicans to do the job, but were behind it, it came out in the 90's. The question is, what kind of a screwed up agency would try to kill BOB MARLEY? Well, they simply thought he sided with the more leftist Jamaican politician. This actually was not true--they even got that wrong. My point is, that they decided to kill him, even based on false conclusions, not even bothering to investigate his thinking and idealogy enough to see if what they were doing was even what *they* thought it was. And talk about negative versus positive. On this, my point is the CIA of the 70's is Mr. Nice Guy compared to the Globalists of today, and their covert armies.
I know they have them, and their own hit men/private soldiers. Even these private soldiers, they spit them out too, when they are no longer useful to them. They get old, the guys have no retirement, the 'government' they helped, later denies knowing who they are, won't help them out. They often die broken in desperate situations, abandoned and alone, betrayed by the organization to which they were so faithful. From the NWO side, (even our own CIA) they can't put these guys on pensions, or give them stable income. Too tracked, too provable. My point is, even people who do their dirty work, they betray those guys, too. Sometimes in the worst way. Cooperation with them usually does not end well. I think the only way you can hide from them is in plain sight (of everyone). We don't want you to come up committing "suicide" . People would say, "Yeah, well he was real unstable and stuff, he was losing weight and stressed, and losing it in his videos". I'd say that to light a flame which could never be extinguished, they'd be too busy fretting about a fire they couldn't put out, to worry about you. I think, anyway. You have to calculate what are the chances they'll take you out either way. Weigh what you'd wish you would've done, if they did so, looking back from that point, if you had to do it all over again starting from NOW? Then do that! I don't see how you can secretly but intentionally put cheater mechanisms in your vids to keep you safe, and yet still openly talk about hoping to get the cupcake working.
And finally: I heard Mylow repeatedly referring to a "SMOT" with his brother, in the 6-magnet working motor video. I didn't know what that was. Apparently it is "simple magnetic over-unity toy". It is a system, even simpler than anything Mylow ever built, which apparently demonstrates that power CAN be harnessed from magnets. It's basically a 'proof of concept' toy, which can be made by anyone. You can build it with 2 long bar magnets, and a simple track for a ball bearing to roll on. You separate the 2 bar magnets, slant them 'uphill' a little bit, and place your little track for the ball bearing in between these magnets, also facing uphill. You point the 'uphill' end of the magnets towards each other (just a little), so the ball bearing is pulled into the magnetic fields between the bar magnets. It is pulled 'uphill', toward the end of the magnets were are closer together, on the 'uphill' end. At the end of the track, the momentum of the ball bearing keep it rolling off the track, where it drops down to the table, out of range of the magnetic field. Obviously, energy is gained, more than it takes to place the bearing on the track. So... the energy is coming from somewhere? Why is this principle not being scientifically studied?
Here is one example of many. Even though the videos are in French, you can totally get the idea.
Main page:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm
See videos:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/atelab/index.htm
In the above link, save Video 1 (presentation and demonstration) to your drive, and play it (realplayer/realmedia format). It's clear demonstration. Why have I never heard of this. And I guess nobody's set these up in a way that a ball bearing can continue going on a track of multiples of these, and then somehow in a loop, or up 'steps' of these. Mylow said something else that was true: if your mind is not open to the possibiity that this can work, you'll never discover it, because you won't research it and put the effort into it necessary to get fruit from it.
I believe, when we understand magnetism, we will understand gravity (and antigravity). Little is still understood about either. I believe they're linked.
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Certainly Sterling expressed some trepidation during this period
but, apparently, his desire to try to help mankind predominated any reluctance.
I am happy that I paid $25 for the "plans" because it helped visualize
the necessity of "tuning" each magnets position. That consideration
alone probably saved me more than $25 by not purchasing more powerful
and/or different magnets when that is not what is really needed.
Tuning & positoning with what I have will be time better spent. At least, until or if my magnets become depleted.
Sterling; please keep up your good work by chasing most any reasonable
possibility.
Each one might have some more pieces to achieving a real FE device.
The energy is there! -witness fission/fusion- converting just a small mass into energy. A whole different level of "Newtonian mechanics". |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | DO NOT GIVE OUT ANY INFORMATION REGARDING MYLOWS IDENTITY, JUST DO NOT TRUST THE RAT AGAIN!
STERLING IS NOW SELLING PLANS TO ANOTHER KNOWN SCAM THE SPINNING RING
IT IS SHAMEFUL!
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | More than anything Mylow has taught us how complex and destructive human psychology can be. Unfortunately he has shown himself as an example of the most pathetic, pityful and lowest form of human standard possible. A sick twisted mind with an abnormous need for attention and acceptance (which he probably didn't get from his parents or whoever) I can hardly think of anything worse. A disgrace to himself and his family. And how much damage he has made! A very destructive man. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Tell us his name, You know we are going to find it sooner or later
Tell us NOW ! |
| | Inquring Minds Want to KNOW ! |
| | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | SterlinYES !
GIVE US MYLOWS REAL NAME SO WE CAN CONTACT HIM, IF YOU ARE NOT A CO-CONSPIRATOR Sterling ?? |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | MyLow:
You shamed yourself, your family, your brother and your boss. Whilst it's not a crime to be not intelligent about science or even magnets, your intelligence is even made lower by your fraud and inability to own up and speak the truth! Most people despise people like you. maybe now you know why if someone who recognises you on the streets of Chicago may spit in your face. Maybe it'll be a MIB. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling
Give us Mylow's real name so we can talk to him
If he really exists ?? |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | usually a faker is a faker is a faker, if sterling wants to proof otherwise let him show us a REAL working prototype, until then why try to believe a faker with an unverified explanation |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sterling needs to remove the plans from his website now!, to continue selling plans based on a lie is CRIMINAL! and brings disdain to the FE community, email him and demand they are removed immediately, the FE community does not need this kind of attention!
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mylow_magmo/messages |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Someone else s making a device pluralities better, it will be done in weeks. Google for Rickoff, and give the guy some room and respect.
Static stator magnets are so 1979. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | This story has been fishy from the very start. Why would a blue collar worker that is getting his bills paid and living a decent life in Chicago feel compelled to start video taping himself and posting it on YouTube for all the world to see? Why did he after supposedly 30 years of effort only now figure out the "secret" to make these magnets work?
None of this ever fit. Even if the guy did figure out how to make his magnets work, where did he all of a sudden develop such a huge aptitude for video taping and posting things to the web? Keeping up a web page or posting a lot of junk to the Internet all the time takes a lot of work, time and energy. All of this would have been a major distraction from the pursuit of his "life's passion" of pursuing a working magnetic motor. What true inventor spends half of his energy posting every step along his journey to the Internet? This guy obviously wasn't looking for anyone to help him make his motor work. He had already figured that much out before he even got to the Internet. So, what could he have been thinking? He wasn't acting or thinking like an inventor in my mind.
My intelligence was truly insulted by the whole visit to Howard Johnson's grave in this story. What am I supposed to believe about that in light of the events that have unfolded? Am I supposed to believe that the NWO or Black Ops or MIB directed MYLOW to go to HJ's grave? There was absolutely no purpose in that visit but to insult the intelligent observer. That was MYLOW thumbing his nose up at all of you that fell for him hook, fishing line, and off camera electric motor. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR
STERLING IS STILL SELLING PLANS TO A FAKE MOTOR |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Whoever voted he would be vindicated, oops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4Qk7Hnu1Q |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | What does it matter...we all learned something and I for one still believe that Mylow did have a break through and was told to do what he did. I am still proceeding with my simple research and will get a result sooner or later. I always believed in HJ theories and think it is very possible to have an all magnet motor. I hope that Mylow finds himself and does what he knows best and don't take all this negative stuff to heart. Who cares what anybody thinks or says. I hope he keeps in contact with Sterling and don't worry about Youtube or OverUnity...
For those that keep on trying, I hope you will get that break soon and please share your results with many others that are still trying. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Whoever voted he would be vindicated, oops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4Qk7Hnu1Q |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | - I discount the 13-year-old mentalities who rancorously complain in a confidently unbalanced negativity. Reminds me of ignoble ppl in a different country who tied dead Marines to a vehicle to drag them through their city when they got a "victory". Same mentality, different cultural limits. People who bash Sterling's site are like people in Afghanistan who bash the United States for being such a sh*thole.
- Dude. It's a BLOG. And it's Sterling's blog. The best of you people haven't done half of what Sterling's done done, including me and far far from it. Thank God for Sterling, man. The vast majority of complainers haven't done 1% of what Sterling's done--even if that is to get out "news with views", like Drudge does (and is impossibly popular, which riles his enemies even more). Yeah it's a blog with a wiki format. So f'ing what. All that means is that others can actually edit and contribute. You want a site done better, your way? START ONE. I wish I had 10, no 5% of Sterling's accomplishments. Damn. Frankly, I don't know how he does it... and I don't know how he makes a living. He obviously dedicates his life to this.
- Any person with a level head knew that the "plans" were of a device which obviously could turn out to be a fraud. That was the whole POINT! It was to verify what "Mylow" was saying. Everyone knew that they weren't "plans" in the sense you're buying a kit of something known to work. If Mylow was right, "plans" weren't even necessary, because the crux of it was experimentation and building on something. Plans were for detail-oriented people who wanted a product which took someone's time, money and energy to assemble. The whole point was a COMMUNITY EFFORT to try to replicate the supposed replication, and learn from each other. Don't like what's in the plans now? Mod them and keep working. Find something better and sell your own plans, sell your device, make the equivalent of your donation back, forget saving the world, you got your $25 back! I was greatly impressed (and Mylow was, too!) at the Canadian's (sorry, i forget his name) replication attempt (clear acrylic setup which Mylow posted a vid commenting about). NOBODY has commented about how it was still replicated for the bar-magnet setup to push itself through. It just cogged between the two sides... but to me, there is something still unexplained there, and it's obvious Mylow wasn't just completely full of sh*t. Yes? I admit, Mylow seemed to be masking a little amazement too when he saw that particular replication attempt. He definitely wanted others to keep working, and kept talking of dropping out of the picture. I personally would like to see a lot of work continue on this--with or without Mylow, people won't stop working on magnet motors.
- Although Sterling believed/guessed that Mylow was onto something (and no one truly knows the full story but the person calling himself "Mylow"), it was clear from Sterling to every single person that this was NOT "case closed"... and that was the whole point of it. The plans were a collection of "best available information" on how it was supposed to be being done... because Mylow wouldn't let 2 people who traveled GREAT distances actually come inside his home (or even bring the thing outside--yet claimed to want to set it up on a sidewalk in front of a TV station to see peoples' "reactions"). Sterling repeatedly asked Mylow in public and private to AVOID going to the media, because he wanted this thing buttoned-down before doing so (independent verification--which detractors don't acknowledge, showing their bias), and despite rooting for Mylow and trying to give him moral support on the off-chance something was there, everyone was frustrated with what Sterling politely called "idiosyncrasies" of the person in question. Sterling knew this wasn't a done deal, and knew something was fishy when neither he nor his partner were allowed a glimpse of the thing. Who turns away a (faithful!) friend who just flew 1000 miles to see you. What a schlub. Mylow should be so lucky to ever have a friend like Sterling, damn the consequences. I have no patience for brilliant people with no backbone or who have shakeable character. Thousands died, or sent family members to die, so Mylow's family could come to America and have freedom--why back off from saving the world to save anyone's life, esp if you're a Christian and understand the atonement. To me, THAT is the most suspicious thing about Mylow's whole story. Give the device to Sterling when he was there, leave it in the hands of God. You want to get out of Mag. Motors? Give the device to Sterling and get back to the business of being a generic schlub, a george costanza. What human being could put himself, or even his own family ahead of something that great? Sterling gave "Mylow" the benefit of the doubt, and was as polite as possible to keep him going. I've had "friends" burn me the way Mylow burned Sterling... and personally I think nothing could be worse than becoming a loser like that. Mylow, hon, are you listening. I'll take a glorious if unsolved death/"suicide" and getting the secret out, over becoming a Judas, a wingnut, or backstabber of the righteous. Reminds me of people (not just Germans--Pols and others IIRC) who worked at concentration camps, because they "feared death" if they didn't kill others. What idiocy. None of us are getting out of this life alive. And yet, none of us can really be killed, either; our consciousness shifts.
The mathematical calculation was simple: what would be the reward if this thing were real, vs what would be the harm if we were being brought down a primrose path. Divide the two, what comes out? The social equation comes out obvious, even if one includes probabilities in the equation. Who among us hasn't gotten burned by trusting in someone's goodness. Let him throw the first flame. And I'll then show you a person whose cynicism has stymied him from achieving _greater things_. If you're not making mistakes, you're not sticking your neck out far enough. And, hell, Sterling sticks his neck out. You gotta respect that. I don't distrust anyone more than someone that everyone likes, because that person is so risk-averse. You know, the person at work everyone likes, because he wants to be on everyone's good side. And doesn't stand up to wrong or inefficient things, for fear of making waves. Fact is, there's no way to tell if he really likes you, or just sees you as a tool. It's people like that who typically get promoted in life... There is no such guile with Sterling. It's hella gratifying to see someone free of that bullsh** actually get traction in the din of POV's.
- The "sin" of actually letting readers in honestly on one's state of mind is, I find, refreshing. It's a BLOG. Get over it. Sterling does what DrudgeReport.com, WorldNetDaily.com, UnknownCountry.com, and other highly successful websites do (all aforementioned sites leaders in their respective areas, just as Sterling/PES is with his). There's not even a name for it yet, though the format is clearly established. "Blogging" is the closest word we have for it. It's not reporting. It's more like cherrypicking/linking to news stories, providing some original content, and not hiding behind a shill of "objectivity". Instead of objectivity, you get honesty. Honesty that there is no agenda or point of view other than what is clearly in front of you. I can tell you, having a degree in media, that media people who claim objectivity, or even try to appear in such a way, are really the ones with the sneakiest agendas. There is no such thing as objectivity. Everyone, everyone has a point of view. I think people ought to be upfront with their POV, and Sterling gives you "where he is" with everything, upfront... agree or not, like it or not. Make your own blog if you think it should be done fundamentally differently. The rancorous a**holes are not people who have respectful, insightful, feedback of slight tweaks in the direction they think the site shoud go. They think it should be completely different... and yet, what have they done sum total with their lives and words?
And--why TF are people who don't believe in overunity devices even on an overunity board in the first place? (OU~.com) Same thing. Reminds me of a time travel/time traveler forum years ago, where a guy showed up claiming to actually be a time traveler, and took all questions from anyone who wanted to ask. The vast majority of the response was that time travel was impossible; therefore, no point in asking him anything! Not even on the off-chance! Not even for entertainment! Just negativity, and low-concept challenges. WTF? Real or no, why the hell were those ppl even a time travel forum? Reminds me of people who hate conservative talk radio hosts, yet still listen to them. Bible bashers who have morbid and hugely energetic obsessions with others' religions, and proving them wrong. You a~ses are all in the same stinking hole. Why follow the Mylow saga if you have no interest in magnet motors? OH--it's STILL the best place you can find for news on stuff YOU want to find out. You just don't want the fringe gamut covered. Well, it's not your blog, put up or make your own. It's free to do (blogspot, wordpress anyone?), and they clearly have time on their hands (secret is, none of those people are positive enough to do what Sterling does--his positive energy is a large part of what is the unseen kernel behind his site's popularity). Those who think STERLING is negative, ought to look in the mirror and study the psychological term "projection". And talk about losing credibility--the detractors, who just drip with negative energy, could never be considered icons of positivity par contre, and are themselves hypocrites, narcissists, and without credibility. Cynicism is defined as doubting the goodness of someone or something. Learn a little about positivity and negativity before spewing your teen logic (regardless physical age or learnedness). Even if those "dripping negative energy" people had their own blog, who of them would do what Sterling's doing here: allowing a forum more or less to give people an opportunity to bash him? Talk about turning the other cheek. You nasty people could learn the MOST from Sterling... f*** free energy, there's something more valuable even than that: your freakin' personality, and soul.
- MYLOW, if you're reading (and I know you read everything written about you):
If you really had/have something legitimate--and to all other readers who may someday, here's some advice FOR YOUR SAFETY. DON'T remain anonymous. "They" will know who you are. (Oh--and don't make your BIRTHDAY part of your super-anonymous username! DUH!) There is overwhelming evidence about how just about all forms of communication are monitored (varying by media type and global location), whether automatically or by humans. How do you think they track viruses back to the original releasers, and how does the government have a recording of an airline stewardess on 9/11 talking with her supervisor before it was even known there was a problem--except by those involved.
Staying anonymous only means that no one will know you're missing, or why, when they take you out. Or, that media won't listen/care when they do. You need to go Extremely public! As soon as possible. If Mylow's case was true, what he did right was to put his stuff up on YouTube immediately, without telling anyone. People make copies (and you should make copies/backups of amazing vids you see, again on off-chances), and then the cat is out of the bag... no MIB will ever be able to totally unscramble those eggs. They don't control reality. The next thing is to release your information, and get EVERYTHING out, in the most public manner possible, and to as many different types of people and sources as possible. Sterling does such a good job, the bad guys just have to read his page. So, don't be anonymous with Sterling. It's unsafe, it's suspicious, it doesn't do anything for you at all. If they take you out, your name will be plastered over the news, it will bring 1000x more focus to whatever you've released, which would be like salt on a slug to them. The LONGER you hold something, the MORE incentive you give them to take you out!!! And the longer you give them to plan! Like the "D.C. Madame" who was holding the names of her former policitician clientele, for years, and eventually ended up "suicided", despite several weeks before, appearing on at least TWO talk radio shows (where the show hosts feared for her safety), and being asked if she "planned to commit suicide" and laughingly but firmly saying NO. Had she just released all that sh**, there would have been no concrete gain in taking her out. What did keeping all that stuff secret get her? They let her go for yeeears. So it's not true they just are taking people out all the time. They do threaten people, they do let people go for awhile occasionally. They do not have infinite resources to murder people. What they do do is make priorities, and probabilities.
The more you hold back, the more pressure/incentive you essentially put on them to "get" you, to "keep" you quiet. That's assuming M~ had something. I tell you, 'madcap' as it is, it's inspired me to look more into magnet motors. Some will go away, others will keep looking. I can tell you those craft seen and videotaped by thousands of people worldwide, are not burning diesel fuel. The answer is out there--whatever it is. We gotta keep experimenting, exploring all avenues. Fringe is not as far as you'd think.
To a lesser extent, the 3rd thing would be to hand-deliver your working model to Sterling, or a comparable person--a person who would face death over being intimidated by NWO elements. No matter what you think about him, I think he'd choose death over bullsh** threats/intimidation... and any man who would do so has my respect. Even Howard Johnson may have been intimidated into silence... If so, what's the point of being alive on earth.
LIVE FREE
or die trying!
F* the MIB AND NWO! Amen...
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| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I have been an avid Free-Energy reader for 6 years with some minor experimenting. I have seen and own tons of and tons of video. I have seen two good hand fulls of devices that seemed pretty legit. All those things have certain elements to them that this case seemed to lack. It was just too easy. The magnets were too lined up in a configuration that has been tried too many times before.
Howards magnets were all chopped up and moved around. Time, energy and thought went into those devices. I couldn't see any evidence of that here. No magnetic conditioning. High success rate. Large number of long videos which were rather devoid of real content. Mostly chit chat. No evidence that this mans brain was in high gear.
It remains possible that Mylows motors are real, if that is the case then I think mylow is a savant and unqualified for the burdens of bringing this information to the public at large.
I am not discouraged by any means. I can feel the ground-swell. |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | It doesn't make sense to put up a rig that uses a cheater device, just because some MIB say that you cannot display a working model. Face it, this was total BS from the beginning. Somebody will come up with something real, but this wasn't it. Time to move on... |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | it seems that mylow's parents didnt teach him that it's not allowd to lie but one thing i dont understand if he wanted to lie why didnt he make sure that we should not caught him? |
| | | 05/22/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I really feel sorry for you Sterling... it was very evident that you wanted this to be the real thing, as many of us did too. Don't give up the good work or lose faith that one of these rainbows will lead to the pot of gold we need as a civilization right now. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Just because of our dissapointment in mylow it does not mean Howard Johnsons motor doesn't work. Why doesn't John Bidine give out more info on HJ's train model he shows on video saying "don't give up Mylow" and let us replicate that one. Eleven to twelve pounds of pull on the train in the gate and shooting out the other side looks like something worth replicating to me. What do you have to say to that Sterling? |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Mylow: A sad, tragic figure, who like far too many on the fringe of science, was willing to bend the truth to fit his peculiar vision. Perhaps those MIB exist only in his paranoid imagination, who knows? As for these amazing Magnet Motors... maybe someday, but would only trust a design independently reproducible by others.
Sterling: Duped like many who really "Want To Believe"... Slightly opportunistic perhaps, but he has to pay the bills like the rest of us. Just the same, Sterling reports Alternative Energy News on the fly, performs a genuine community service, takes chances, and cleared the air when updated facts don't pass the smell test.
Move on people... Just another unfortunate crash scene on the road to Free Energy!
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | The next story from Mylow will be that the fishing line realy was driving a generator powered by the magnet motor
(Ya ! that's the ticket !) |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Look, Sterling is a promoter. Remember, "There is no such thing as bad press". The Mylow saga has generated a lot traffic, increased AD value, created controversy, promoted plan/video sales...I'd say Sterling is doing what he does best, just like the rest of the carnival barkers and hucksters out there that depend on the 'suspension of disbelief' and the 'confidence' of their readers as proven psychological techniques to draw otherwise intelligent folks into their trap.
I think it was all choreographed from the start, all parties concerned were culpable. |
| | T Lee Buyea - Editor in Chief, Fla.News Service, Miami, Fl. USA |
| | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Mylow and James Hardy of the water powered generator, Where I got to be the one to play Sterling's part and waste many many hours of work publicising it and many long hours on the phone with him and many long distance phone bills several months ago should be banished to a desert island together never to be heard from again.
I think some of these guys are just lonely and lure in people to talk to them ?
Like I told Sterling in a recent email, He should use his website an 100,000 readers to get a law passed to make this type con job illegal. |
| | T Lee Buyea - Editor in Chief, Fla.News Service, Miami, Fl. USA |
| | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Mylow's only redeeming quality is that his Cockatiel trusts him enough to sleep on his shoulder !
Look for his wife to divorce him soon and maybe a suicide ? Was that realy his twin brother or a trick with mirrors ?
We never new wit Mylow nothing ever made sence or was proved. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Well, my take on the entire thing: Allow no witnesses, it must be a fake. Even if it were not fakery, Mylow was not consistent. I do believe that magnet motors are a strong possiblity, but with this particular one, I could see no practicality, all I could see was what the "MIB" called a toy. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Though I would like to be wrong. I think Mylow did not give enough credible information or someone would have made a working replication by now. I'm glad I did not buy the plans for $25. Was it a plot to make a quick buck from the beginning. Wheres that money going now? There is far to many working technologies around that can be replicated with no question or plans to be sold. Why so many people waste other peoples precious time with devices they know do not work only makes the revolution take that much longer.
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Sterlinq, you have made yourself responsible for this and you owe it to everyone to pursue whatever the truth is (even if it means moving into a apartment next to mylw). Your research should be documented on your podcasts with interviews with everyone in the soap opera. Mylw's landlord should be interviewed so we can hear her say that she saw it and hear the story about someone in her home country who was kiIled over a similar device. The company who remagnetized his magnets should be interviewed via telephone on your podcast (if he really did remagnetize the same magnet so many times, that says he was at least doing something). The person who operated the remagnetizing equipment should be on. The receptionist at Tony's company should be interviewed about the F8I visit. This should continue until there is nothing more you can do to make amends. Giving people the whole truth in CSl fashion I think will put you back in the good light you and your work deserves |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | stop talking about liars and lawsuits. try learning from this......
by focusing on magnetic currents. i think thats the only way
we can find the truth. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Not of Howard Johnson's patents are fake. If you look at the train gate pattern and look on youtube under magnet gun this is basically the same idea. The electric train in china runs on magnets the same way as Howard Johnson"s train. Does he get royalties from this first device he made back in the 1980's.
If you look at this it may be possible that this tech is genuine. If one patent is replicated does the other exist as well?
Someday maybe.
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I think mylw may have discovered a piece of the puzzle that made HJ's device work. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | WEll, Well, Well, I suppose the first thing is to get the definition of the acronym correct, what Mylow would have described would be known as "suits", if it really happened, not MIBS, two different situational classes of encounters. The "suits" if they really want to stop you, do not use these types of encounters as a social event, you are warned or whacked, quite permament, none of this in-between nice guy scenarios.
Any of the aforementioned posts may be correct and/or there is also another possibility! Mylow may have been quite sincere in what he was doing and then became nervous about the types of things that might happen, and/or became wishy-washy and by using a fishing line(faking it) as a potential way of getting himself out of what might have originally been a genuine working device so that he could go back to his quiet existance.
It is also possible that this was part of what I would call a 'grand experiment' to see how people would react with Mylow as an innocent participant, and has been known to have been done in the past by various elements. Your reactions are quite interesting to say the least! A psycological profile can be developed and a data profile with +/- degrees of accuracy can be developed.
As to whether or not the device actually works or no, the jury is out, I can say with certainty that those of you who are angry etc. are no better than what you accuse Sterliing of, you believed , you bought, and you built and are now claiming duplicity! Hmmm, rather like the pot calling the kettle black, I would say.
Either way, it does in my opinion only, put the FE movement in a rather poor light.
Best Regards,
Emmett L. Butler |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Too bad for Sterling and Mylow, Good for the skeptics. How I wish Mylow was genuine. This proves that law of nature cannot be broken. 2nd law of conservation of energy. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | All of this talk about suing is not going to help. Energy suppresion real and others have verified it in the past.* How long did it take HJ to get a motor running? How long did Mylow work until he got something? It takes time -- keep trying. If you were Mylow and your life and your wife's life were threatened what would you have done. Remember, Mylow wanted to stop but Sterling kept encouraging/pestering him to continue, to defy the MIB. It isn't Mylow who should be judged but Sterling and his enthusiasm/pressure. When you have a working model don't try and publicize it -- spread it around to others in secret before you have it publicized. Maybe now that he is no longer believed, Mylow has the chance to do it without MIB interference, because I believe this discredit of Mylow is exactly what they wanted.
*"Energy from the vacuum", Tom Bearden, pages 288-289 etc. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | My god!!! Why are we spending so much time on this guy and subject. Let's move on if he hasn't come up with something to prove his findings. Peswiki spends way too much time reporting about this non news event. It's like reporting on the Iphone. There is no news here. Move on! |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Hey Thomas Paine, are you a f***ing idiot? You bought a bunch of crap because you saw someone do something and now you want to sue? You didn't do your own research into weather or not it was true and somehow it's not your fault. Did you sue Nike because those Air Jordon's you bought didn't make you slam dunk like MJ? How about Coors Light because as everyone can see from the commercial, drinking it gets you hot chicks? That reminds me to go slap my Grandpa for all those years I spent trying to pull a quarter out of my ear. It looked real when he did it so I should sue him now right? Get a life! Is your meth supply getting low cause you spent a couple bucks on magnets and can't afford to get high now. Leave the guy alone now, he obviously has more problems that we do! |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Mylow is a fraud. He never had any working device and all his excuses make no sense. Come on people use some common sense. Some of you are so gullible and that includes Sterling Allan. Mr Allan falls for this sort of thing on a regular basis. He swore Perendev had a working motor then Carl Tilley had a world changing breakthrough then Genesis World Energy then Steron then .....fill in the blank. When is enough, enough. How about some real proof instead of hiding behind excuses? None of these people have shown any working devices and not one single instance does that have to do with MIB. All any of these people had to do was show the device and let a legit source validate the device. It hasnt happened one time with all the various claims. Instead all you will ever hear from these people are excuses. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | It doesn't make sense that he faked it to discredit himself. He could have just gone away and be done with it. I think that he wanted to believe that he really had something real and wanted to show the world. I think he was sincere when he said he was doing this for everyone but just ended up letting us down. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I seriously wanted to warn Sterling that after the MIB incident both Mylow and himself were being setup for a fall. No one walks away with both their life and reputation. Good luck. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Well I looked at his video no.6 of the stonehenge model many many times and cannot detect any fakery. On the new videos it's too obvious once you know what to look for. Check that No. 6 again and try to find something. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Follow a simple rule. If they will not go public in person then it is a fake. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | why did he fake so many people what was the motivation?!! so much time & money was given away for this!!! he got to be punished for this!!! |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | i can not understand how people are still thinking that mylow has a working device what else have to be proved that he is a fake? |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Too many words. Simple facts and do-it-yourself basic instructions or pay-if-satisfied motor kits should be self-explanatory - nothing more nothing less...see Bedini's SSG or Keppe's motor... |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | it seems that he didnt have attention when he was a kid so he waited till now and finally 2 whole month's he got loaded with it but what's gene be now? |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Yeah, Sterling has tried to make money off everything in free energy that flies through his hands - - - like his first try with Perendev and Mike Brady. Now, he has charged people money for plans to Mylows little scam - - - Hey, Sterling, when you gonna refund all that money for plans before those good folks go hire lawyers and come after you ?
All these scammers will continue unabated until everybody plays by the same solid rules: NOBODY gets any mention on any website until their device has been VERIFIED in person - - on site - - - by multiple members of the free energy congress.
Too many website owners are just chompin' at the bit to get the edge on the news story over their competitors . . . and the result is the scammers get their device published too soon as the real deal, and get everybody's hopes up . . . |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | since he didnt take money from no one he can not be charged as a fraud but as a psycho he could be charged |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Total faker, looking for attention. We need to focus on real technology, not pie in the sky. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I think we need to remember Sterling is VERY complicit in this fakery. From the beginning he WANTED to believe this so badly that he ignored good advice from wiser people who continually pointed out the obvious to him: That NOBODY had yet witnessed a live demo, and that a REAL technology usually STARTS with a live demo. In fact, the live demo is the usual tool of choice for free energy tinkerers.
Anyone who has followed this for very long knows that the first thing the inventor tends to do when he thinks he has something working is to call the TV station, the university, or some other group of people for a public demonstration. Mylow's refusal was a big tip off, but Sterling was blind to it all, and complicit in perpetuating this hoax. He has, unfortunately, badly damaged his credibility. He should have known better.
The unfortunate truth is that most Free Energy "inventors" are mentally ill and deceived. Most are excellent deceivers. And of course, the "inventor" is the number one reason none of these technologies ever see the light of day. There is no shortage of investors, business help, etc. But the "inventor" usually manages to kill the technology and generally take a lot of money too.
Yes, I believe free energy is real and attainable, but it's not yet the right time in our history. Until it is, we'll just see more hucksters and con artists of this ilk. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Total fake, looking for attention. Willing to discredit the free energy movement. We need to focus on credible technology that is clean. No pie in the sky. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Look for bobs sake media especially with the advent of bloggind and independant media is so prevalent the MIB could not possibly operate like this as it could be around the world in a matter of minutes.
Furthermore to believe in a conspiracy you have to believe that governments or elements in government are so competent that they could keep such a big secret as a conspiracy for so long. These same people who will happily leave laptops on trains etc etc. YOu could have 10000 competent people in on a conspiracy and only one person is careless or honest and leaks it and its gone. Probability and common sense demands that Conspiracies don't exist. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | He had me going as I really wanted to believe in this. I'd like to see a video of Sterling and bob from utah go to mylows house and rough him up and take thier stuff back. I think this would add a good ending to this vicarious video debacle. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Justice should be done. If 'Mylow' faked it all, he should buy the materials from all those who feel cheated by spending money on them. If he's a complete loony-toon he should institutionalized, and not be allowed to drive a truck. If it was all a fake, his brother would of had to been in on it too, and is also responsible.
If it was part real, and he was threatened by 'MIB' they should be exposed. If Sterling knows more than he's telling, now's the time to come clean, because he did the most to perpetuate this drama. Maybe it needs to go to the media now.
If justice is not done, people will continue to live in fear, and not respect each other. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I was hopeful and followed this but in the absence of any theory on how it actually works I was skeptical and became more so as no one was allowed to physically see a device and then no replications.
Lets be honest, I'm no scientist but in any plan involving the scientific method you create a hypothesis (magnet motor) then you create a theory that involves some ideas with some application (theory) and you test it over and over aquiring evidence. There was some hypothesis and it all fell apart at the theory stage when no bugger could test it first then eventually when they could there was bugger all evidence.
For a minute and more he had me suckered, I really thought the world might change. I don't regret optomism though, but I certainly don't believe in NWO. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | In my opinion it was real. If you listen to his videos again you can tell that he just wants to get this thing out so people can replicate it. He could of dissappeared or fake the last videos hoping someone would do it before he got caught. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I think he is afraid, I would suggest to future inventors to send their working prototype anonymously to someone like Stirling or anybody who wants the truth out.
If you post it on Youtube "they" will track you down.
Then when it is confirmed by Stirling or whoever that it works he can post it on his website with instructions as to how to replicate.
Don't try to patent it either or you're screwed.
I don't care about the money. But I care about changing this world even if it hurts. And it will hurt.
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | A Magic show, and magician doing its job.
Best example found to day.
http://pesn.com/2009/05/21/9501543_Mylow-fakery-forced/
"Did the MIB force Mylow to fake his later all-magnet motors?"
Hmm always always leave doubt of if fake or real: in the minds of the viewer.
OU and Free energy is still a thing that will be looked at and looked for. Just watch out for them magicians. Most will if they can take your money and time if you let them.
The Mylow thing. He has been given a great amount of tolerance by the community.
He has been given a great many chances to have his device validated. Yet he just runs and hides when it comes to validation. Information for replication has been given, yet so far no valid replication has shown what he claims.
It is time to stop being tolerant of this guy. If it is real, he would allow verification. If it was real; replication would have been done already. How many configurations has he shown now??
Validity of this device becomes zero.
The whole point is where do you draw the line of feasibility and validity of a claim and of a claimant.
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | There must be some people behind the scenes smiling!
Almost every single follower of the Mylow discovery has turned on him. How easy to divert attention from the important issues.
Most followers must be slime bags expecting to reap all the rewards from Mylows efforts judging by all the shit theyre dumping on him.
Almost no one has the intestinal fortitude to pursue a goal that has merits. It appears most want someone else to do the hard yards so that they can have instant gratification. You think MIB would happily let the world have the secrets they already control?
Mylow has made some huge sacrifices to give you this and you dump shit on him.
No wonder we don't have free energy!!!
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Oops on the multiple posts. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Many are overlooking what may be of value here and how to get at it. I'm considering suing Mylow for fraudulent inducement; maybe a class action on behalf of everyone he fraudulently induced into buying aluminum disks and magnets.
Remember how Mylow kept threatening to sue those who were defaming him? Payback's a b1tch Mylow.
Where do we start? How about deposing Sterling to get Mylow's real name. How about deposing Mylow's wife under oath to see if she actually did call 911? How about a subpoena for the local PD's records on the 911 response call to Mylow's apartment? How about deposing Mylow's boss/partner who said two MIBs showed up to say "Mylow's in big trouble"? How about deposing Mylow to reveal the site of this "MIB nest" he was taken to? How about deposing Mylowbro about his participation in the hoax and his email to Sterling confirming MIB involvement?
Mylow's admission to Sterling and PMMTester opens the gate to a lawsuit by all of us who are out hundreds of dollars not to mention our time chasing a wild goose.
If nothing else, if this suit confirmed the existence of an MIB free energy suppression squad, that alone would confirm that free energy systems are real. Otherwise why would these goons be running around with the keys to communication networks identifying threats and silencing them?
Well Mylow, you may be useful after all! |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Many are overlooking what may be of value here and how to get at it. I'm considering suing Mylow for fraudulent inducement; maybe a class action on behalf of everyone he fraudulently induced into buying aluminum disks and magnets.
Remember how Mylow kept threatening to sue those who were defaming him? Payback's a bitch Mylow.
Where do we start? How about deposing Sterling to get Mylow's real name. How about deposing Mylow's wife under oath to see if she actually did call 911? How about a subpoena for the local PD's records on the 911 response call to Mylow's apartment? How about deposing Mylow's boss/partner who said two MIBs showed up to say "Mylow's in big trouble"? How about deposing Mylow to reveal the site of this "MIB nest" he was taken to? How about deposing Mylowbro about his participation in the hoax and his email to Sterling confirming MIB involvement?
Mylow's admission to Sterling and PMMTester opens the gate to a lawsuit by all of us who are out hundreds of dollars not to mention our time chasing a wild goose.
If nothing else, if this suit confirmed the existence of an MIB free energy suppression squad, that alone would confirm that free energy systems are real. Otherwise why would these goons be running around with the keys to communication networks identifying threats and silencing them?
Well Mylow, you may be useful after all! |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Sincere inventor scared by MIB.
It's MyLows sincerity that is the most convincing factor that leads me to believe that he has succeeded in the replication.
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I challenge you to find your own proof for MIB, they are real. there is tons of documentation to that effect if you go look for it. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Not believing that your government is evil is what´s sustaining the same. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I challenge anyone to show proof that MIB is real. MIB is all nonsense. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | In my opinion and being very aware of the overall situation I would say that Sterling IS the MIB element and that PESN is a front now and may have been all along |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I think it was real. He was very scared but he still did all he could to try give this technology to the people. Go back and listen to exactly what he says in his videos. He is telling us its real, he would like to give up but he wants people to believe it works so they can replicate it and get it off his shoulders. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | "Look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsb3xswaeIo"
Good grief!, the line the ring is attached to is unwinding, it will appear to spin for a long period, add to that his own hand movements and you have the recipe for ERROR. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | He fooled me... I am out about 250.00 for a disc I had made plus stator support and magnets. If he did have a working motor at first he ruined all credibility that he had. To go on and on with instructional videos while knowing people were spending money for nothing may be funny to him... it is not to those believed in him. What a sham. Just think, he even had his brother in on it. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Nice guy scared by the MIB and forced to lie and make fake models of his magnet motor.
Soon this all story would be part of prehistory because simple free energy devices would appear for all.
Look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsb3xswaeIo and experiment bye yourself. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Gee, the opportunists jumped on this vote fast. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | Well that poll is a little at both ends of the spectrum with no middle ground!
In my own experiences, the MIB do not operate in this dramatic fashion. If they want something or want to stop it, it is done without all this fanfare. So the story all seems so "fishy" to me!
The control paridgm is in control. They are in control through the implementation of unde regulation that they comply with because it keeps new wealth or competition from rising to chalenge them. All this bickering is only continuing the problem.
Could Mylows magnet motor work? maybe. Did this one work? not likely with all the changes in stances and different stories. At every turn of events there is a new story, or lie, whichever way you sway.
option 5 for the poll may include: sincere inventor, working on a dead end project, but with such hope of it working, would go to any lengths to make it appear real, so as to get more help or get more people involved that he thinks may be able to help make it work.
Anyway, as someone else stated, can we get to work on something real now and let this one go. If it is real, it will happen. It may not be tomorrow, or in 4 days, but if it is real, it will find a way. If it is not real, you can continue to make up new theroies, stories and excusess forever in this endless game.
So, instead of looking for the golden goose, how about just eating some chicken eggs that we already have. This quest for the ultimate is at the detriment of what works right now, is able to reduce consumption, save people money, contribute to our local economy, clean the air we all breath, reduce the addiction to finite fossil fuels and help people declare energy independence.
I would be happy to teach more of you how you can be energy independent right now! instead of looking for the ultimate, which is the enemy of the good.
We have the good, right now. Only through fully embracing it, will we have any chance of moving on to something better. Throughout mankinds fuel use evolution, we have steadily gone from hydrocarbon fuels heavy on the carbon side and light on the hydrogen side to fuels that are lighter on the carbon side and heavier on the hydrogen side. Mankind just barely has entered the methane stage of this fuel use evolution. This represents the biggest achievement throughout mankinds fuel use history in that it is the first time there is more hydrogen in our fuel than carbon. Only by fully enbracing the mathane stage of mankinds fuel use, can we then prepare for the next stage which is obviously pure hydorgen. After that, we will have to see what materializes. Of the known, burnable fuels, hydorgen, renewable energy produced hydrogen is at the top of the pyrimid. If we are going to evolve away from the burning of fuels and into the collection of other forms of available energy, it will only be through a logical progression. Trying to skip a step is futile and will only prolong the pain and the addicition to the current system.
Open your minds and embrace somehting new from a different approach and it will all start to make sense.
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Intergalactic
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | From the very very beginning, when the camera shot was tight and just on the stator, people were getting excited thinking it was the "real thing". Mylow never said if he was turning it with his hand or not. I thought that he was turning it with his hand the whole time, it was self-evident.
That "real thing" thinking with nothing more than a tight camera shot is the "true believers" wearing Post-It notes on their foreheads saying, "I am your consensual and submissive 'free energy' bitch, tale me and use me please!"
The "true believers" all got a good hard ass spanking, and some of them really liked it. They can't wait for the next exciting MIB session. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I can see just maybe first version might work, but other seem a cover up, and never went into details with version 1 stator, we will never know for sure. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | I consider myself quite thick skinned, but it's no excuse to let a lie of this magnitude slip by, normally I would say he should go to prison for his deception, but I'll give Mylow the benefit of doubt and accept it's some kind of sickness. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | A low class clown, pathetic liar and scum back! |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | he should be sued for every penny spent on replication attempts then beaten! |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Every one is just too thin skinned, I'm still alive it didn't hurt me to much. It will all sort itself out sooner or later |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | Psychotic liar, he needs to seek help. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | I'll never understand the logic behind lying to help the cause. Especially to friends who genuinely want to help.
With friends like Mylow, who needs the MIB?
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| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | It says more about what happens when the basic tenets of science are abandoned in favor of wish fulfillment. |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | It's 'just a toy' :))) |
| | | 05/21/2009 (37 weeks ago) | | A guy capable of lying this much has to be a faker all the way. |
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